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Snoddasmannen is offline Snoddasmannen
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Oh thanks for noticing Maniac! Wow! 100 posts already? I suppose it's time to let loose my first ! I knew there was a reason I was going out tonight!

I'm having fun. I've even started making some minor contributions here and there. But most importantly, I've made myself enemy with an entire faction I'm really looking forward to the war with the Uni now, I want to see how proper lt. colonels command their forces I will continue to spam for some time to come, have no fear.

I think I'll ask at the bar for some xenobrew tonight.

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I want to see how proper lt. colonels command their forces


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Hello. I just got accepted into the team. I believe the rank is recruit.

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Welcome aboard!

I am just a newbie who likes to hang around asking newbie questions, making silly suggestions and insulting other factions, and they made me Sergeant! So I think it's safe to assume you will be at least Sergeant too

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yeah - welcome aboard, Modo44

There are some nice commissions coming up soon - the Impact Rover about to come onstream at Santiago Citadel, for one (needs a name) as well as a Southern Theater Commanding Offcer to be based at Minas Tirith (who will command that base plus the one going to be established on the coast to its east)

Plus, we prolly need a Commander fro our growing Transport fleet - the Spartan Non-combatant Craft (SNC Pegasus, SNC Hermes and SNC Mercury)

Lots of opportunities for fancy titles!!

G.

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Uhm, only trick is, I'd have to give the orders via screenies, 'cause I don't have SMAX. Would that be a problem?

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Well - at this juncture the titles are more honorific than actual (although as the game grows in complexity, and as we develop different theatres of war, maybe we'll need more direct units & armies' orders.

Right now, Maniac and I both open up the turn, and although (for now) I'm the official turn player. That means I pretty much follow the agreed-upon orders in the relevant trun thread (2149 for the current turn) and I pause and save midgame when decisions need to be made that aren't just routine housekeeping (such as the current one re building the Comand Nexus - use 1 supercrawler and 2 AA's or a supercrawler, a "not so super crawler" and just 1 AA)

But mainly the input from the "Unit Commanders" are along the lines of "Invade the Uni before tackling Morgan" or "Explore the coastline before podpopping" - more macro than micro

But as I say, once we have 30 bases and are fighting a 2-front war with 100 units ir so, more detailed orders may be needed by the turnplayer than just from one other source.

Lack of smax would be a handicap. but not insurmountable given that screenies are relatively easy to do

(did all that make sense - I feel I was awfully long-winded in my reply?)

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Sure it made sense. Thanks for the clarification.

So, I might get to "command" a 3-unit fleet (the macro scale, for now)? That would be nice. The first order is simple: arm them.


And for the future, I'm trying to get SMAX. Just trying to get it cheap, which means I prolly need to buy it in Poland. Hopefully It'll be here before some personal commanding is required.

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Also a welcome from me, recruit Modo!
GIMME FOURTY PUSHUPS!!!


Ah good... Finished in under thirty seconds. That's a rather good time. Perhaps we could

make a good Spartan citizen out of you.

As a citizen of the Spartan Federation, let me give you a brief introduction of our current

in-game situation.

We are currently at MY 2149 in the game, and are the second most powerful human faction. Due

to our early focus on naval exploration we are the only faction to have already met all

seven human factions. We have used these many contacts to arrange many lucrative tech

trades. As a consequence we are the most technologically advanced faction at the moment.

However because of all this trading our research costs have skyrocketed, meaning we probably

won't research any techs ourselves in the next couple decades.

Our naval superiority combined with a focus on building probes has also given us

infiltration on our three neighbours: the Hive, the University (both AIs), and the

Morganites: a human faction. That still leaves the Peacekeepers (AI), Gaians and Angels

(both humans) uninfiltrated.

However we are making plans to infiltrate them as well. As we will soon construct the

Command Nexus and Maritime Control Center, we will soon have high morale probes and the

fastest ships on Chiron, so infiltration should be relatively easy.

Another important event is that in two years, after long preparations we will at last begin

invasion of our eastern neighbur the University. Hopefully this will herald the start of our

march toward victory!

In short, this is a very interesting time to be a Spartan, and it keeps getting more and

more interesting!

Btw, if you want to have a look at some important threads, check out "the factional

datalinks". The thread could use some updating, but it still contains useful links to

important threads to get up-to-date.

Both links to gameplay threads ánd roleplay threads, such as our Phalanx Editorial Office

('The Phalanx' is our newspaper), the story thread and the One Sentence IC Story. Lots of

opportunities to have fun. I hope you will!

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Well thank you for the introduction, sir.

There's one question I have. What is the difficulty level of the game?

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It's on Transcend - hence our drone management techniques (Maniac's actually - I'm learning as we go)

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Ok, so the AI will be moving, not just sitting there. Good, it means better fighting.

I admit I haven't played the Spartans before. Is it very different from the Hive? I never got real problems with drones there, IIRC.

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Hmm sorry for the messed-up layout in my previous post. The word wrap feature of Notepad can be annoying at times...

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I admit I haven't played the Spartans before. Is it very different from the Hive?


Biggest difference - negative - is lack of Industry for us (we like our expensive weapons). We're at -1 Industry whereas the Hive is at +1

Biggest positive for us is that we start every unit at Disciplined with our +2 Morale (and the Command Nexus will make all new units +4, or Veteran, with running Fundy boosting them to Elite (as would a bioenhancement center plus a visit to a Monolith if ever we change out of Fundy)

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I admit I haven't played the Spartans before. Is it very different from the Hive? I never got real problems with drones there, IIRC.


Something the Spartans have in common with the Hive (when running Police State) is a positive SE Police rating. This means both factions rely heavily on military units to quell their drones.

It's also much easier to popboom with the Spartans.

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My welcome to Captain Modo from me as well. I think Snoddasmannen is a Captain too, that's the lowest rank we have for active posters here. I'm the one who ran diplomacy for the first months, I had to take a vacation in November but now I intend to get back to the circuit and see how much damage Googlie has done and if any of it is repairable.

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Oh you're right Kass, I am a captain, my bad ... I was nominally demoted to Lieutenant for a short while though, for being a bit too active a poster (see the whole Gaian relations thread for that story)

And of course let's not forget that both Googlie and Maniac have served briefly as curators of the military museum.

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And of course let's not forget that both Googlie and Maniac have served briefly as curators of the military museum.


Our prototype Punishment Sphere

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Okay, thanks for the warm walcome and for the info. Now, as expected, even more questions come to mind. Also, there's a request. So beware of answering any.

First of all, not having SMAX hurts my understanding of our position in the game. I can't check what is being built where (and how long it will take to finish), I can't check the numbers and stats of our units. AFAIK, I'm not the only Spartan not able to load the save. Having to ask questions is not a solution in the long run. An easy way to help this would be to post the F4 (Production) and F7 screens along with the turn map. This way, one could quickly see what is happening and where. This more precise info just might pull people out of lurking mode, methinks.

There's the thing about the command over those 3 non-combat ships, that was mentioned. How do I do it officially, and where (in which thread)?

Also, is there a thread for long-term military strategy? I only found one concerning domestics so far. I mean military forces development and organization, not so much the invasions going on at the moment. We do have a long-term strategy, right?

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First of all, not having SMAX hurts my understanding of our position in the game. I can't check what is being built where (and how long it will take to finish), I can't check the numbers and stats of our units. AFAIK, I'm not the only Spartan not able to load the save.


You're right, I can't load them either

But it's working well for me. I don't really understand all the micromanagement stuff that goes on anyway. But when something important on the macro-scale does happens, the turnplayers are good at getting screenshots on it.

I have a decent idea of what is going on in the federation, but I can see how it would be difficult for somebody to just jump in and try to get a grasp of the whole thing.

Oh, and I'm curious about where the military museum is located ... Some far off base like Minas Tirith perhaps?

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An easy way to help this would be to post the F4 (Production) and F7 screens along with the turn map. This way, one could quickly see what is happening and where. This more precise info just might pull people out of lurking mode, methinks.


The current map thread (second sticky) gets updated pretty much every turn

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There's the thing about the command over those 3 non-combat ships, that was mentioned. How do I do it officially, and where (in which thread)?


Right now they're part of the Spartan Engineering Corps, but we'll commission a Spartan Transport Corps and find a good logo from somewhere, then we can announce it in the Phalanx

quote:
Also, is there a thread for long-term military strategy? I only found one concerning domestics so far. I mean military forces development and organization, not so much the invasions going on at the moment. We do have a long-term strategy, right?


Make sure that you visit pages 2 and 3 of this forum. Militrary strategy was dealt with in several threads - I'll see if I can dredge them up and bump them (we haven't revisited them since we decided on the Uni invasion, that's why they've slipped to pages 2 and 3)

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Something like this, maybe?

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SNC Mercury returning from her maiden voyage, popping the Unity seed pod

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Nice, really nice pics.

How about making it "1st Spartan Transport Corps" in official statements? Sowing some more terror in the puny hearts of other fractions. You know, making it look like we have an "official" transport navy of 3 vessels, plus some more we don't want to talk about.

I found some threads about strategy, but they are all old, and mostly concerned with matters at hand at that time (no, I didn't read all of them from start to finish). Now figuring out which one lead to the current state of Spartan military (not even knowing exactly what the current state is...) would be quite an achievement. So I rather ask.

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Great pics once again Googlie!

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An easy way to help this would be to post the F4 (Production) and F7 screens along with the turn map.


The unit and base inventory was partially meant to reflect our F7 Military Nexus screen, but I haven't found the time lately to update it.
If I find the time, I'll put it high on my priority list.
Instead of listing every unit there, I think I'll rework the inventory to include a screenie of the F7 nexus, and only list the units that have a special given name.

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Modo44: Don't forget to visit our web site

Snoddasmannen: we need a fancy title for you as well, as one of the few currently active members.

There's the 1st Infantry Division (the garrison Hoplites and Scout Patrols

Or there's the yet-to-be-named Impact Rover division commissioning in 2150 from Santiago Citadel

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I have, I have. The site looks great.

Just a note - "Modo" is enough. The number is irrelevant.

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Snoddasmannen: we need a fancy title for you as well, as one of the few currently active members.

There's the 1st Infantry Division (the garrison Hoplites and Scout Patrols

Or there's the yet-to-be-named Impact Rover division commissioning in 2150 from Santiago Citadel


Well thank you Googlie. I think I'll grab command of that Impact Rover division rolling off the production line. Just give me til the next turn to come up with a name and a logo for it

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I checked the ranks in modern military (if that's relevant here), and a "Commodore" seems to be an officer who commands more than one ship, but not a whole fleet. That's in the Royal Navy. The Americans call the rank "Rear Admiral", which doesn't sound too cool. The ranks are separate to land, air and naval units, so it shouldn't be a problem if we have different ones too.

"Commodore Modo" would be fine with me. Has a good sound, no?

Ok, now that this is sorted, let's get back to arming those ships.

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Hmm - that seems a bit high (we are all trying to keep our ranks below Colonel, or its equivalent (in deference to Colonel Santiago)

So the highest Navy ranking (Dissident) would be Commander, with the Western, Southern and Transport Fleet CO's being Lt. Commanders

(But any rank, when in charge of a vessel, is a Captain, hence Lt. Commander Primus Pilus, Captain of the SCC Hunter)

So you'd be Lt. Commander Modo ( )

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