28-07-2004 12:45									#31
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I think Primus Pilus or Dissident would be perfect for captaining our first battleship.

	28-07-2004 20:32									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Presumably the commander of the Former would become head of the Engineering Corps? ...........

With a promotion to Major?

quote: ......... and likewise the SCC Invincible's Commander would head up our fledgling navy (I need to know who to argue with in Junta sessions for protection for my Navy Seals [foilprobes]) (And I thought Diss wanted that job anyway?

Yeah I've appointed him as Lieutenant-Commander (IIRC ~ Major rank in the army) of the SCC Invincible. I'm not sure which rate he wants.

quote: If no-one else wants to take responsibility for terraforming, I'll gladly pass over command of Rolling Thunder and take on the mantle of the Engineering Corps

Then we'd need a new captain for Rolling Thunder. But of course as the game progresses and I assume we all rise in rank, having command over multiple units, I assume we'll start using fictional commander names for roleplay purposes. So we could promote Rynn to Captain of Rolling Thunder if you want? Unless she stays with you as second-in-command of the Engineering Corps?

quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus I'd be happy to volunteer for that job

You're now the commander of our Ogre, the only unit for now in our Special Forces Corps.

	28-07-2004 21:08									#33
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I think it'd be nice to have Rynn command Rolling Thunder. I could assume command of our new rover unit, especially if I get to give it a cool name.

We could also, wrt. Major Googlie , have a little round of promotions to get some fodder for the Phalanx

	28-07-2004 21:16									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia I could assume command of our new rover unit, especially if I get to give it a cool name.

There's currently a new rover troop available if you're interested.

	28-07-2004 21:18									#35
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Kassi's Cavalry???

	28-07-2004 21:19									#36
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Yay. I'll have to think over the name hard and well. It's not unlike naming your firstborn

Googlie: proposal noted.

What will my unit be doing for the time being? I need to be able to do my desk job too, remember that. I'll have to appoint a good second-in-command.

	28-07-2004 21:25									#37
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Kassiopeia leads his new Brigade out of Santiago Citadel

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	28-07-2004 21:27									#38
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(pic can always be replaced once you decide on a name)

	28-07-2004 21:29									#39
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A brigade? That reminds me, we need a reference source on the whole battalion/division/unit/regiment/brigade/corps stuff. What's worse, I think that's more country-specific than anything.

	28-07-2004 21:38									#40
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I've been using this as my reference. A while ago I presented an argumentation for a unit containing more or less 200 soldiers, so I've been calling our units companies (or for our rovers: troops) until now.

	28-07-2004 21:47									#41
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I posted this in the units section:

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With 4 rovers, an Ogre, and a soon-to-be-built infantry scout, it's time to organize ourselves into Divisions and Theaters of Operation

I suggest:

As R-112 CRV and Chiron Knights were first out of the starting blocks (and as both are currently together to the south) that they become Brigades of the 1st Army Division, operating out of Sparta Command

Rolling Thunder is then a Brigade of the 2nd Army Division, as will be Kassi's rover unit when they get commissioned (operating out of Sector Craterwest)

Shrek, as a Special Forces Unit, attached to the 3rd Army Division (Base garrisons, civil defense and special ops), based in Santiago Citadel, will join with the Infantry scout(s) when produced to give the 3rd Army critical mass

	28-07-2004 21:54									#42
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(Not that it's relevant, butin the Spartan Chronicles we came to a concensus that a mobile ground unit represented about 120 - 200 real life units, a stationary one (eg a scout) about 700 - 1000, while an aircraft represented some 20 - 24 actual planes and a naval vessel was a flotilla of some 6 - 12 ships)

We're 40,000 population now, going on 50,000 and if 10% of our population is in the armed forces, that's a lot of men (and women)

	28-07-2004 23:00									#43
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But if you think about it, wouldn't it make sense that we would start out with a large portion of our population in the military? In order to explore and secure a foothold on Planet, we'd need a strong military early on, which is exactly what we have.

	28-07-2004 23:50									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac With a promotion to Major?

OOh - I like that!!

quote: Then we'd need a new captain for Rolling Thunder. But of course as the game progresses and I assume we all rise in rank, having command over multiple units, I assume we'll start using fictional commander names for roleplay purposes. So we could promote Rynn to Captain of Rolling Thunder if you want? Unless she stays with you as second-in-command of the Engineering Corps?

I'll give up RT to anyone that wants to command a well-decorated brigade (read the Sparta Chronicles early chapters on the war with Yang)

I can leave Rynn with the RT group - it'll let me dabble in some fiction from that perspective

	30-07-2004 06:23									#45
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sorry i've been away. comcast internet got stupid (AGAIN :bash. been off line for 2-days and super-genius tech still didn't fix problem until we threatend home office on phone...anyway...too bad i missed-out on 1st Fleet Commander. i would like other naval units in the future. i am open for other jobs, but like Kassopeia said, a 2nd cmd would be a good back-up if i can't respond in time. re unit sizes and cmd structure, modern conventions are similar across nationalities and political doctrines, and understandably have their roots in the first truly organized militaries (Greeks, Romans, not sure about ancient China).

	30-07-2004 08:31									#46
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Well there's always the soon-to-be-commissioned SCC Redoubtable

See Sparta updated in the recruitment thread

(I thought I'd have a little fun - I don't know if anyone reads it though)

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	30-07-2004 08:35									#47
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Redoubtable? When are we going to name one Enterprise? Tradition requires!

	30-07-2004 08:51									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Redoubtable? When are we going to name one Enterprise? Tradition requires!

You know, I was wrestling with what our second one would be called (so I thesaurused Invincible and got Redoubtable)

I agree. SCC Enterprise is so much better.

But won't it be Primus Pilus' call?

I'll go back and edit it to be nameless until its christening

G.

	30-07-2004 08:54									#49
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quote: But won't it be Primus Pilus' call?

Good point, it'll be his boat. I forgot that Dissident sort of named his own in that hazing article.

	30-07-2004 10:17									#50
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Re: whether we have Platoons, Brigades or Divisions, I guess a real life comparison (UK Army) sheds no light at all (ie - all over the place)

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	30-07-2004 10:19									#51
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Here's the 2nd Division (300 officers and 1800 enlisted):

The 2nd Division has responsibility for the whole of England north of the Humber and Scotland. The division was first formed in 1809 to fight in the Peninsular War and one of its most famous engagements was during the Burma Campaign in 1944 when, at the battle for Kohima, the tide against the Japanese Army finally turned. The Divisional Headquarters is in Edinburgh.

• The Divisional Headquarters is in Edinburgh. The 2nd Division comprises four Brigades and a Garrison:
  
• 15 (North East) Brigade, with its Headquarters in York, is responsible for units in the North East of England.
  
• 42 (North West) Brigade, with its Headquarters in Preston, is responsible for the home defence of the North West of England and the Isle of Man.
  
• 51 (Scottish) Brigade, has its Headquarters in Stirling. The Brigade’s area of responsibility encompasses almost two thirds of Scotland from the Forth and Clyde rivers in the south to the Shetland Islands in the north.
  
• 52 (Infantry) Brigade, is a Light Infantry Brigade with Light Role Battalions at Edinburgh, Chester and Preston under its command.
  
• Catterick Garrison, including units in Ripon, Topcliffe and Dishforth. Catterick Garrison also hosts 19 (Mechanised) Brigade.

	30-07-2004 11:43									#52
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i will accept cmd of our next boat if deemed by the Junta. however, Enterprise is a Grand name reserved for a Capitol ship (sea/space). therefore, i propose Hunter. let's save the fancy names for our kick'as boats.

	30-07-2004 12:28									#53
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Well put, Lieutenant, I do think we'll get to christen some cruisers later on to guard the beaches. SCC Hunter is an apropos name.

	30-07-2004 19:29									#54
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Interestingly, I ran a google search of the US registry and the UK registry, and there's no warship currently - or ever - called the Hunter

So once again, Sparta leads the way

	05-10-2004 19:47									#55
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Rollcall (as at October 5th):

Andemagne
ChairmanSlick
DeathByTheSword
Dissident
Drogue*
General Diego
GeneralTacticus
Googlie
Jamski
Kassiopeia
Kody*
KrysiasKrusader
Lemmy
Maniac
Master Zen
Method*
Ogie Oglethorpe
Primus Pilus
Rynn:**
Skanky Burns
Snoddasmannen
Snowflake*
Zeiter
Zero

* Moderator
** DL

Total teams (including Mods)

ACDG3 Spartans (23)
ACDG3 Gaians (26)
ACDG3 Morgan (25)
ACDG3 Data Angels (15)

	06-10-2004 05:09									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Considering that it'll take quite a few turns for us to get contacts in the first place, Foreign Affairs will be quite a quiet post for some time.

We have now met the Gaians, as well as all 3 AI factions (Hive, Uni and PK's)

quote: Ancient Sparta had two kings and managed fine - two heads of the diplomatic department ought to manage as well. In Foreign Affairs I'm more interested in the pensmanship and facets of propaganda involved, rather than studying the intricate webs of interfactional relationships as such (hence my interest in running the factional newsletter). In that sense, I could stay as Minister of Information, and merely act as the "voice" of Sparta. You (GeneralTacticus) could be the "intent" of Sparta, the one who polls for opinions and ponders the general guidelines we go by, plans the strategy and so on. Naturally we could, in name of general flexibility, work in both roles, and act as an advisor for the other.

How active is GT nowadays? I haven't seen a post of his here for a while

quote: To maintain the appearance of mild disinterest and isolationism, though, it'd be better to have only one clear figurehead for Sparta in the diplomatic circles (that would be me ). It's a clear message when a meeting is held with a legion of attaches and assistants sent by the other side, while the other party sends a single official. Quite a striking image, especially in negotiations for surrender, although I don't see the Spartans accepting anything else than unconditioned surrender unless we're doing really badly.

I'm delaying the 2140 turn until Kass et al recommend/decide what to do about the Gaians - note that they have asked what we want for Doc Mobility

We obviously want Ind Auto, but that may be somewhat of a one-sided swap that they'll balk at. They haven't (yet) expressed any interest in our intervening to call Chairman Yang off their backs, but that may come. They have offered a Treaty

(see Sparta-Gaian Private Forum (my bolding):

quote: extracted from Sparta-Gaian Private Forum - posted by Lady Deirdre Skye We are interested in research cooperation and establishing trade routes with you. We propose Treaty of Friendship in light of cooperation and peace with your faction. Other Lordships are also authorised to propose trade with you.

G.

	06-10-2004 05:37									#57
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quote: I'm delaying the 2140 turn until Kass et al recommend/decide what to do about the Gaians - note that they have asked what we want for Doc Mobility

quote: We obviously want Ind Auto, but that may be somewhat of a one-sided swap that they'll balk at. They haven't (yet) expressed any interest in our intervening to call Chairman Yang off their backs, but that may come. They have offered a Treaty

I'm new with ACDG diplomacy, so bear with me, but would it be too blunt to say something like,

"We very much appreciate your offer, but honestly were mainly interested in procuring Industrial Automation, and obviously only offering doc:mob would be a one-sided trade. Therefore, is there a combonation of techs/favors that you would be willing to trade for Industrial Automation?"

And also, the treaty is definitely a good idea, in my opinion. I don't have any overwhelming urge to invade the Gaians at the moment, does anyone else?

	06-10-2004 15:21									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Rollcall (as at October 5th): General Diego

Ah. A new recruit?

quote: How active is GT nowadays? I haven't seen a post of his here for a while

I PMed him last week and he told me he's lost interest in the ACDG for now.

quote: Originally posted by Zeiter "We very much appreciate your offer, but honestly were mainly interested in procuring Industrial Automation, and obviously only offering doc:mob would be a one-sided trade. Therefore, is there a combonation of techs/favors that you would be willing to trade for Industrial Automation?"

Personally I'd say that's good. It could give a generous impression saying we want to give more to them than what they first suggested (only DocMob).

	13-10-2004 07:44									#59
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I feel a promotion coming on



I think Lt Colonel Googlie has a certain ring to it (and will give credence to there being 2 strong factions within the Junta - Googlie leading a pro-Morgan wing and maybe Maniac leading a pro-Gaian wing?)

Kass, of course, as the Diplomat has to stay rigidly neutral

(but we'd prolly need a new recording Officer to the Junta, as it'd be unconscionable to have a politicized Recording Officer)

Does anyone else think that Lt. Colonel Googlie has that je ne sais quois ring to it?

G.

	13-10-2004 07:53									#60
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Oh, certainly. I do like the idea. I wonder how having two Lt. Colonels would affect our decision-making. That is purely from an RP perspective, as far as I've observed the way the turns are played, you both having equal rank is perfect. Also with Maniac having to be absent for a bit more nowadays, it'd be spot on. We could have run-off sentences of "Lt Colonel Maniac being reserved" or "unavailable" or "busy" often, to allude as if something's happened to him.

I will certainly enjoy the role of the hapless diplomat, loyal to the Junta, having to balance between the two "factions".

I myself could, possibly, take up Recording Officer, as well as being Diplomatic Officer - but that is a task that would possibly also interest Krysia, so I will not call dibs on it just yet.