03-07-2004 21:11									#61
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How is a feudal game different from a $mini-game?

	03-07-2004 21:28									#62
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From what little I know about it, they are pretty much the same, but the Feudal game dictates the course of the game itself, rather than runs off of what we decide as a group.

Your interests may be at complete odds with one another. Someone may want another city containing a rival lords' tiles to be razed and thus allow it. Survival will be interesting, to say the least...

	04-07-2004 00:46									#63
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Aboot this pillaging: Could you keep someone else form doing it if you had one of your own troops defending it? Obviously the groups can't fight it oot. There should be some rules set forth on this, or we will spend the enitrety of the game, razing each others lands, and the find ourselves wiped oot by an AI civ.

	04-07-2004 01:28									#64
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Thats a damn good point Tora. If we go ahead and pillage all of our tiles, the cities will never grow and our capabilities to produce military and city buildings will fail and it won't matter one flippin' bit who's feudal empire will grows or not a the Mayan nation will not survive. I think it will be kind of silly to have troops splayed out on all of the city tiles for the sole purpose of protecting each one's feudal empire

	04-07-2004 04:17									#65
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That is onething I'm afraid of too: will the game lead to individual gain and the destruction of the empire, or can individual gain and empire building go hand in hand?

Will we eventally put aside our individual interests and benefit the groups?

Logically none will put aside his individual interests if the others do not, so in the end we need a King with the power to overrule all his lord's decisions, to make sure the individual intesets don't harm the empire's interests and that short-term gain does not replace long term gain.

Yet who is to be King? Whish lord is "more equal" than the others? The solution the old Celts had for this problem was that the lords elected a High King from amongst themselves, who was allowed to rule for a lifetime, after which a new High King was elected, not nessecarily the old High King's son.

Aidun

	04-07-2004 04:24									#66
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Would a King be different than the Despot?

	04-07-2004 04:34									#67
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quote: Originally posted by TORARADICAL Aboot this pillaging: Could you keep someone else form doing it if you had one of your own troops defending it? Obviously the groups can't fight it oot. There should be some rules set forth on this, or we will spend the enitrety of the game, razing each others lands, and the find ourselves wiped oot by an AI civ.

Yeah, Uber was working on some rules for inner team troop combat resolution at one point.

	04-07-2004 06:13									#68
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UnO is away for up to a week - I am playing a PBEM or two for him in the meantime. Hope we can sort this stuff out before we get to that point in the game.

	04-07-2004 07:22									#69
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R3>R4>R12>R7.

	04-07-2004 16:53									#70
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YE OFFICIAL (by declaration of minor minion, GhengisFarb so no telling what other minons might consider official)
LAND LIST AND DOMESDAY BOOK

1) GhengisFarb - Red 17
2) conmcb25
3) Uber KruX (Red 3 >R7)
4) Octavian X (Blue 4>G1>G4>R17>R16)
5) Esoteric (R3>Blue 5>B7>R10>R13)
6) ZargonX (Blue 10>R4>G4>R17>B7>R12)
7) Aidun (B10>Blue 7>G1>B6>B3>B4>B5)
8) UnOrthOdOx may wait till last to pick tile.
9) Zone
10) TORARADICAL (Green 4 >B10>G1>R2>R4>R14>B7>B5>R17>R7>R5>B4>B3>R16>R6>R8>R3>B6>G6>G7>G5>R12>R11>R20>R13>R10>G8>G2>G3>R1>R9>R18>R19>R15)
11) GDatyaro
12) Tarquinius (B10>G4>Red 7>R5>R4>R2>G1>B3>B5>B7)
13) Nuclear Master (R3>Red 4>R12>R7)
14) Aeson (Green 2)
15) Jonny (Green 1>B6>G6>G4>R3>R7>R17>R5>R18>B10>R8>R6>R16>B3>B4)
16) Shogun Gunner
17) General Locus
18) Rasputin
19) Spiffor (Blue 3>B10>B4>B6>R5>R6>R7>R8>R16>R17>R4>R2>R14 >R3>G4>G6>G7>G1)[
20) panag
21) Gramphos
22) Gamecube64 (B10>R3>Red 2>R3>R14>R17>R7>R5>G1>R16>R15>B3>B4>B7>B5>R10>R13>R20>R11>R8>G4>B6)
23) Paddy the Scot
24) MrWhereItsAt
25) Ennet (R7>R3>G1>G4>B10>Red 5>B4>B3>B6>G6>B5>B7>R4>R10>R12>R6>R8>R16)
26) Makahlua (B3>Green 6>R8>R13>R2>R4>R13)
27) =OttomusCeasar=
28) Aqualung71
29) jagjef (Red 13)
30) mrmitchell (G4>Blue 6>B7>R18)
31) Thrumble (Red 14 >R16>R18>R8>>R10>R19>>R20>R15>>R11>R12>B1>B2>B8>B6)

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	04-07-2004 17:17									#71
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I hadn't realized we had gotten this far already. Thanks for the pm or I still wouldn't have noticed.

I'm last so here are my choices - R14>R16>R18>R8>>R10>R19>>R20>R15>>R11>R12>B1>B2>B8>B6

	04-07-2004 17:49									#72
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Darn it, everytime I consolidate data, someone has to immediately post new data making me have to edit the compiled data. Edited Trumble's data into the previous post.

I think you people do this just to spite me.

	04-07-2004 17:58									#73
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Atleast he was in last place..

	04-07-2004 20:51									#74
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So once this is finished we can all start selling the shields, foof and commerce from our tiles to make enough gold to buy new ones?

Aidun

	04-07-2004 20:54									#75
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R3 >R7. I'm #3, so I'm covered.

	04-07-2004 21:13									#76
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Updated and BUMPED others for Uber's post.

This has been up for four days, and con has aknowedged, set a time for posting his choice, and then missed it.

I don't won't to be unfair but seeing as all members get to choose an unclaimed tile for free for their first tile can we call this thing closed on the priority choices and let further members choose an unclaimed tile as their tile from here on out?

My concern is that some of these members aren't going to choose a tile right away. And those that are active are having to wait and we're putting the entire game on hold for a few people.

	04-07-2004 22:07									#77
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Lets not close the Priority Choices just yet, but instead, we could just move on down to next on the list in an orderly fashion...

I personally am waiting to see which tiles get grabbed up before going to the hassle of making a list. I'm #16 and thus that should be ok, but I don't want to get skipped over because y'all decided to close priority ranking.... how about if anyone doesn't submit their choices in an orderly fashion, like #2, and they get skipped, after their turn has passed they can submit at any time..... how does that sound???

	04-07-2004 22:12									#78
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Most of the tiles left are pretty bad.

	04-07-2004 22:43									#79
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... well I am # 17 and it says unorthodox may wait till last, and others might get skipped.... so I could go higher than 16 and there are 18 tiles blacked out, so I should be able to get one of those

I still think we should keep the Priority Choices open.... just not for those who have stalled on there turn

	04-07-2004 22:51									#80
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This thread was started 30-06-2004 00:16. How about we make it and even 5 days or 120 hours. That gives them today to post their list of choices and after that they get to choose from what's left. We have about 11 people who have posted tile preferences and I'm pretty sure three of them have no plan on choosing a tile. Several people expressed the plan on watching how it works before choosing a tile. I've emailed a few people who I have emails for and we still have to organize Town Elders to get the game moving again. Thrumble, mrmitchell, and jagjef are the LAST three on the list and they've posted their tile preferences.

Hey, if they don't like the tiles left they can wait until more open up and take one of those later for their choice.

Anyway, if you HAVEN'T made your choice and you are still alive, PLEASE post your choices today cuz I'm making a final map with the Players names on it tonight.

Red 18, red 16, and red 8 are all good tiles. In the $MiniGame UnO started with a Jungle tile. A JUNGLE TILE mind you, and became one of the wealthiest players in the game. Being Active is far more important for success than your tiles. Heck, I started out with a Mountain tile (1 shield per turn) and was the wealthiest player at the end.

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	04-07-2004 22:52									#81
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For the new page:

YE OFFICIAL (by declaration of minor minion, GhengisFarb so no telling what other minons might consider official)
LAND LIST AND DOMESDAY BOOK

The Terrible Ten
(Those who haven't chosen their tile)

1) GhengisFarb - Red 17
2) conmcb25
3) Uber KruX (Red 3 >R7)
4) Octavian X (Blue 4>G1>G4>R17>R16)
5) Esoteric (R3>Blue 5>B7>R10>R13)
6) ZargonX (Blue 10>R4>G4>R17>B7>R12)
7) Aidun (B10>Blue 7>G1>B6>B3>B4>B5)
8) UnOrthOdOx maybe waiting until last to pick tile.
9) Zone
10) TORARADICAL (Green 4>B10>G1>R2>R4>R14>B7>B5>R17>R7>R5>B4>B3>R16>R6>R8>R3>B6>G6>G7>G5>
R12>R11>R20>R13>R10>G8>G2>G3>R1>R9>R18>R19>R15)
11) GDatyaro
12) Tarquinius (B10>G4>Red 7>R5>R4>R2>G1>B3>B5>B7)
13) Nuclear Master (R3>Red 4>R12>R7)
14) Aeson (Green 2)
15) Jonny (Green 1>B6>G6>G4>R3>R7>R17>R5>R18>B10>R8>R6>R16>B3>B4)
16) Shogun Gunner
17) General Locus (Red 2>R14>R10>R13>B3>R16>R8>G7>G5>G12>G6>B3>R20> R11)
18) Rasputin
19) Spiffor (Blue 3>B10>B4>B6>R5>R6>R7>R8>R16>R17>R4>R2>R14 >R3>G4>G6>G7>G1)
20) panag
21) Gramphos
22) Gamecube64 (B10>R3>R2>R3>Red 14>R17>R7>R5>G1>R16>R15>B3>B4>B7>B5>R10>R13>R20>R11>R8>G4>B6)
23) Paddy the Scot
24) MrWhereItsAt (Red 6>R8>R18>G7>R12>R10)
25) Ennet (R7>R3>G1>G4>B10>Red 5>B4>B3>B6>G6>B5>B7>R4>R10>R12>R6>R8>R16)
26) Makahlua (B3>Green 6>R8>R13>R2>R4>R13)
27) =OttomusCeasar= (B5>Blue 8>B1>B2>G8>R18>R6>R16>R8)
28) Aqualung71
29) jagjef (Red 13)
30) mrmitchell (G4>Blue 6>B7>R18)
31) Thrumble (R14>Red 16>R18>R8>>R10>R19>>R20>R15>>R11>R12>B1>B2>B8>B6)

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	05-07-2004 01:17									#82
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Okay, before its too late my choices are B5>B8>B1>B2>G8>R18>R6>R16>R8.

	05-07-2004 02:10									#83
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ok, I will submit my list...

R2 > R14 > R10 > R13 > B3 > R16> R8 > G7 > G5 > G12 > G6 > B3 > R20 > R11

This should be sufficient!!!!

	05-07-2004 02:42									#84
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I suggest that you wait until this evening and move on with the game until they step in. Rankings do not matter anymore then. Majority rules.

Aidun

	05-07-2004 14:54									#85
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Citizens of Futility
1) General Locus
2) Uber Krux
3) Nuclear Master
4) Ennet
5) MrWhereItsAt
6) Tarquinius
7) jagjef
8) Gamecube64
9) Thrumble
10) GhengisFarb


Citizens of the City of X
1) Spiffor X
2) Octavian X
3) Esoteric X
4) mrmitchell X
5) Aidun X
6) =OttomusCeasar= X
7) ZargonX
8) GhengisFarb X


Citizens of Washington DC
1) Jonny
2) Aeson
3) Toraradical
4) Makahlua

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	05-07-2004 17:33									#86
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Not too interested in this bit, but in the interests of keeping things moving I guess I should choose something.

r6 > r8 > r18 > g7 > r12 > r10

	05-07-2004 23:15									#87
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I like the new look of the pic. It looks realy good. One question: What's with the city name changes?

	06-07-2004 00:15									#88
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quote: Originally posted by TORARADICAL I like the new look of the pic. It looks realy good.

Thanks, I'm using the old graphics from the old $MiniGame.

quote: One question: What's with the city name changes?

Propoganda, it started because OctavianX and ZargonX were in the same city with SpifforX, mrmitchellX, AidunX and the whatnot..........

	06-07-2004 00:30									#89
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quote: Propoganda, it started because OctavianX and ZargonX were in the same city with SpifforX, mrmitchellX, AidunX and the whatnot..........

Ya. Noticed that, though only Octavian and Zargon actually have X's on the end of their name. But whats with "City of Lepers"??

	06-07-2004 00:32									#90
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Its way out all by itself from the rest of our civilization.

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