09-07-2004 23:58									#31
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I picked R18 because it's been worked. It has Road and Irrigation. Your pic must be old

	10-07-2004 00:03									#32
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It doesn't actually show any improvements.

	10-07-2004 00:10									#33
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That's because the picture is a "clean map" picture--no cities, no units, no improvements. I'll try to find my save and clear this up.

	10-07-2004 00:13									#34
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TEH PROOF

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	10-07-2004 00:15									#35
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my bad. fixing now.

	10-07-2004 00:16									#36
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thanks

	10-07-2004 00:35									#37
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here is the new goods distribution:

code:

			F   S   C   T
 1. Tarquinius:		3   0   1   4 
 2. Uber KruX:		3   0   2   5
 3. Gengis Farb:	3   0   2   5
 4. Thrumble:		2   0   1   3
 5. MWIA:		2   0   1   3
 6. MrMitchell:		2   1   1   4
 7. Gen Locus:		0   1   5   6
 8. Nuclear Master:	0   1   5   6
 9. GameCube:		0   1   5   6
10. jagjef:		1   1   0   2
11. conmcb:		1   2   1   4
_____________________________________
			17  7   24  48

Last edited by Inverse Icarus on 10-07-2004 at 00:43

	10-07-2004 01:02									#38
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edit: scroll down to see excel worksheet.

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	10-07-2004 01:48									#39
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell We demand pork! We demand a suburb! We demand Settler!

Must not post political comments..............

quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX I disagree with the now non-citizen Ennet. Rather than argue, I will present the math of the aforementioned resource split, and point out the disparity of incomes ($50 from lowest to highest):

So to better equalize, we should shift more to the Food from the Commerce value.

	10-07-2004 02:44									#40
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Here is a pretty excel worksheet with the citizen stats, and two possible ways to split it.

The first way is if we assign an equal number of dollars for each good: MONEY/3

The second way was Ennet's proposal, ((# of good)/(total # of goods))*Money

In both cases, I have highlighted the lowest (pink) and highest (green) paid. We need to focus on balancing them out.

edit: removed.

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	10-07-2004 03:49									#41
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Tweaked the numbers a little bit, but this is the most equal I could get it.

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	10-07-2004 03:56									#42
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Wow! Thanks for all the work you have done Ghengis.

	10-07-2004 04:48									#43
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I like Ennet's way of doing the most. It makes it the most realistic.

	10-07-2004 04:50									#44
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I obviously vote for Uber's equal split for each good.

The reason being that if a good is scarce (sheilds right now anyway) then the price should be higher. That just makes sense to me.

We have a lot of food and that will benefit us in other ways, but a lot of food should mean prices are lower.

Just MHO.

PS, I need to count up how many times Uber actually said con sucks!

	10-07-2004 05:08									#45
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Vote Standings So Far:
Equal Split
conmcb25

Equal Price
Nuclear Master

Tweaked Pricing (Ghengis' post)
GhengisFarb



Yet to vote
General Locus
Tarquinius
MrWhereItsAt
Uber Krux
jagjef
Gamecube64
Thrumble
mrmitchell

	10-07-2004 05:56									#46
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Ghengis. Thought of something. What aboot the square the city is on? I figure no one owns it, but what aboot it's values?

	10-07-2004 06:04									#47
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 I obviously vote for Uber's equal split for each good. The reason being that if a good is scarce (sheilds right now anyway) then the price should be higher. That just makes sense to me. We have a lot of food and that will benefit us in other ways, but a lot of food should mean prices are lower. Just MHO. PS, I need to count up how many times Uber actually said con sucks!

of course you like that plan, I made it when I still had THE TILE YOU STOLE FROM ME YOU DIRTY MONKEY!

	10-07-2004 06:30									#48
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quote: Originally posted by TORARADICAL Ghengis. Thought of something. What aboot the square the city is on? I figure no one owns it, but what aboot it's values?

We've never counted it. By doing so we insure the players a little more wiggle room in making money.

	10-07-2004 06:31									#49
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I guess you dont want my vote do you Uber



Well with that being said if a commodity in high supply has artificially high prices, then I want a different tile.

In other words we probably should have worked some of this out BEFORE we made this decision. I based my tile choice on scarcity of resources, and you probably did the same thing Uber.

	10-07-2004 06:34									#50
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Well with that being said if a commodity in high supply has artificially high prices, then I want a different tile.

Tough, you chose your tile. You had PLENTY of time to ponder your choice.

	10-07-2004 06:35									#51
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Tough, you chose your tile. You had PLENTY of time to ponder your choice.

Thanks Ill take that into consideration when you run for office

	10-07-2004 06:43									#52
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Thanks Ill take that into consideration when you run for office

And I think there are certain events of your making that people will take into account if you run for office.

	10-07-2004 06:44									#53
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Consider this a vote for Equal Split $200/$200/$200, as if I understand correctly that makes me the most money

EDIT: Whoah. I might change in a minute, depending on how I can **** around with the spreadsheet

	10-07-2004 06:57									#54
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No change.

Equal Split $200/$200/$200

by the way thanks for the spreadsheet uber

i didn't screw around with Ghengis's formula because he sucks and didn't post a spreadsheet

	10-07-2004 07:16									#55
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quote: We've never counted it. By doing so we insure the players a little more wiggle room in making money.

K, that's what I figured, but just wanted to make sure we hadn't forgotten it.

	10-07-2004 07:23									#56
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Fun: Titles
Any suggestions on what we are to title ourselves?

Despotism
12 Inch, 9, Inch, 6 Inch, GhengisFarb
I propose Despot, Tribal Leader, and Warrior--Warriors with one tile, Tribal Leaders with two, and Despots with three or more.

Monarchy/Feudalsim
This one is easier:
Serf - 1 tile
Lord - 2-4 tiles
Duke - 5-8 tiles
King - 9+ tiles

Republic
Citizen - 1 tile
Senator - 2-5 tiles
Consul - 6+ tiles

Eh?

	10-07-2004 07:43									#57
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Sounds good to me.

	10-07-2004 10:19									#58
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I vote for Ghengis' tweaked prices

Equal Split
conmcb25
mrmitchell

Equal Price
Nuclear Master

GF's Tweaked Prices
GhengisFarb
Uber KruX


Yet to vote
General Locus
Tarquinius
MrWhereItsAt
jagjef
Gamecube64
Thrumble

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	10-07-2004 10:26									#59
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Uber are you ignoring me on purpose?

quote: Equal Split $200/$200/$200

	10-07-2004 10:46									#60
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Uber are you ignoring me on purpose?

Its Ok MrM, Im sensing a hidden agenda between Uber and GF......................