18-07-2004 10:10									#151
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See...if you scroll up here, it says i have 4 commerce.

	18-07-2004 18:46									#152
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I vote for 100% of trading session 2's money to go to Food. With 0% going to Commerce and Shields

	18-07-2004 20:35									#153
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I vote for 100% of trading session 2's money to go to Shields.

	18-07-2004 20:59									#154
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**** TRADING SESSION TWO ****
Guild Pricing
-Thrumble - Food(100%) Shields(0%) Commerce(0%)
-General Locus - Food(0%) Shields(100%) Commerce(0%)
Average: Food(50%) Shields(50%) Commerce(0%)

	18-07-2004 21:43									#155
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100% Commerce

	18-07-2004 22:26									#156
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Guess I'll have to go with 100% Food.

	18-07-2004 22:27									#157
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I figured out where the Error is.... in the table it says that I have 4 commerce NM has 5 and GameCube has 3....but I just looked at the save, and I have 3 and NM has 5, but there has been an error as Gamecube actually has 4 commerce because his mountain is on a rivertile.... Gamecube, you was robbed!!!!!

	18-07-2004 22:28									#158
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quote: Originally posted by General Locus I figured out where the Error is.... in the table it says that I have 4 commerce NM has 5 and GameCube has 3....but I just looked at the save, and I have 3 and NM has 5, but there has been an error as Gamecube actually has 4 commerce because his mountain is on a rivertile.... Gamecube, you was robbed!!!!!

No he wasn't, the table shows that he had one he didn't sell.

	18-07-2004 22:36									#159
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**** TRADING SESSION TWO ****
Guild Pricing
-Thrumble - Food(100%) Shields(0%) Commerce(0%)
-General Locus - Food(0%) Shields(100%) Commerce(0%)
-Nuclear Master - Food(0%) Shields(0%) Commerce(100%)
-GhengisFarb - Food(100%) Shields(0%) Commerce(0%)

Average: Food(50%) Shields(25%) Commerce(25%)

Remember you can trade in the city of X this turn also.

Last edited by GhengisFarb on 19-07-2004 at 03:04

	18-07-2004 22:41									#160
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You're missing the point though, GF.....

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...30&pagenumber=5

If you look there on the bottom of the page, under Uber's table where it lists everyone's resources... it says that I have 4 commerce and Game Cube has 3 commerce... that is where the error is...or was... I realize that the table under the trading session says GameCube has 1 commmerce left over.... but there's a reason I tried to sell 4 commerce...it's because I was going off the table from the above link, and I would hazard a guess that GameCube was too... (although I could be wrong) The point is, the trading session was carried out with false numbers and that shouldn't be happening.

	18-07-2004 22:45									#161
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The "Trading Session" didn't list any false numbers, if you trusted Uber to give you correct numbers, well.........


I've already opened the save and double checked the improved tiles and corrected a few peoples production levels that are producing more now.

	18-07-2004 22:53									#162
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Cool, man..... what do you mean you corrected.... is this listed somewhere???

	18-07-2004 23:14									#163
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quote: Originally posted by General Locus Cool, man..... what do you mean you corrected.... is this listed somewhere???

The "Production" columns are the per turn production of each member. The "Inventory" column is the one turn production PLUS whatever they didn't sell last turn.

Note the total at the bottom that are available to be sold next turn.

	18-07-2004 23:23									#164
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Ghengis, I now produce two shields, just so you know.

	18-07-2004 23:24									#165
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Looks good. Thank you for doing such!

But you forgot to add my shield (to inventory) that I will be making for the next trading session!!!

	18-07-2004 23:26									#166
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Are you sure about that NM??? I looked at the sav, and th mine on your mountain will not be completed for another 9 turns

	18-07-2004 23:26									#167
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master Ghengis, I now produce two shields, just so you know.

According to the last save the worker is still mining your tile.

	18-07-2004 23:30									#168
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Sorry about that, but I do make another shield anyways, and you can verify this, that if a trade session happens when the worker is working my tile, I get a bonus of one shield, from the city.

	18-07-2004 23:32									#169
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... and it's a good thing too, as you will be giving me that shield for this trading session!

	18-07-2004 23:35									#170
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master Sorry about that, but I do make another shield anyways, and you can verify this, that if a trade session happens when the worker is working my tile, I get a bonus of one shield, from the city.

Huh? Your tile is only producing 1 Shield, I checked in the city screen and if the city works it it still only produces 1 Shield. What mod are you using that allows your tile to produce 2 Shields?

	18-07-2004 23:41									#171
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I'm not using a mod. I'm talking feudal terms.

	19-07-2004 00:02									#172
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Farb, could you add money amounts to the table you have above?

If I understand the rules correctly, I can bid my $16.65 for the settler, and then bid for a tile at auction to go into debt?

	19-07-2004 00:21									#173
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master I'm not using a mod. I'm talking feudal terms.

I'm somewhat confused. In the game if you right click the tile and pull up "terrain info" those are the stats and production of that tile. Period. There are no bonuses from the city working your tile or city improvements. Just what the "terrain info" stats give you.

quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX Farb, could you add money amounts to the table you have above? If I understand the rules correctly, I can bid my $16.65 for the settler, and then bid for a tile at auction to go into debt?

We have a rule that you have to have the "Minimum Bid" amount to start bidding on a tile ($250), but as long as you have the minimum bid you can bid as high as necessary and go into the debt.

Right now the only way to get new tiles is from Settler shares until the cities get larger or we increase the per capita income by increasing Revenue over Science.

	19-07-2004 00:38									#174
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb I'm somewhat confused. In the game if you right click the tile and pull up "terrain info" those are the stats and production of that tile. Period. There are no bonuses from the city working your tile or city improvements. Just what the "terrain info" stats give you

I find this very amusing. In a limitless, no rules, feudal game, I find it's limits.

Uber Krux, as co- Town Elder with me, decided upon our worker's action, but there was a problem. If we mined my tile later, I may not get a shield, because it was the worker's second project. A deal was made, if a trade session occurs during the time the worker is working on the gems, I get a shield gifted by the city. Uber, can you back me up on this?

	19-07-2004 00:48									#175
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I said I'd gift you the price of a shield in Feudality during the trading session, from my pocket.

So during this trading session, after the price of shields are determined, I will gift you said gold. I place that in Farb's hands, to ensure that happens.

	19-07-2004 01:18									#176
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master I find this very amusing. In a limitless, no rules, feudal game, I find it's limits.

There are rules. If we didn't have rules it wouldn't be any fun. If I said, "this turn my Floodplain produced 27 Shields," what would be the point.

I don't see what's wrong with Uber paying you out of his pocket, or buying you a shield on the market. That's between the two of you.

	20-07-2004 02:17									#177
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**** TRADING SESSION TWO ****
Guild Pricing
-Thrumble - Food(100%) Shields(0%) Commerce(0%)
-General Locus - Food(0%) Shields(100%) Commerce(0%)
-Nuclear Master - Food(0%) Shields(0%) Commerce(100%)
-GhengisFarb - Food(100%) Shields(0%) Commerce(0%)
-Uber KruX - Food (100%) Shields(0%) Commerce(0%)

Average: Food(60%) Shields(20%) Commerce(20%)

Remember you can trade in the city of X this turn also.

Also, note we have 2 population this turn, meaning we have $200 to split.

	20-07-2004 02:23									#178
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Since X is poroposing a 10% tariff on goods sold there, and it looks like it will pass, I would propose an ordinance. It shall read:

Any non-citizen selling goods in Feudality, or any of it's suburbs, shall be subject to the same tariff that their home city imposes on the citizens Feudality. This tariff shall then be dispersed equally to all citizens of Feudality, suburbs included. No one shall recieve "double payment" as the result of owning multiple tiles in the greater Feudality area, or for having "split tiles".

Ordinance 1: Tarrif Matching Votes:
UberKruX: yay.

1 Yay, 0 Nay.

	20-07-2004 02:25									#179
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quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX No one shall recieve "double payment" as the result of owning multiple tiles in the greater Feudality area, or for having "split tiles".

Why don't we say each citizen of Feudality receives one share of the split regardless of how many tiles they own in Feudality and her suburbs.

	20-07-2004 03:00									#180
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Wording is not my forte. Yours works.