01-08-2004 01:44									#31
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yes just started my first relaistic game and no extra baddies, but defionatly less able to take any hits..


and it definatly hard to get around with just the prod and tranq, means more sneaking!!!! leaving many terrorists unharmed this time.....

	01-08-2004 05:46									#32
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Realistic doesn't change the number of opponents.
It does change the number of goodies you find though.
The first laser sight I found for my rifle was in HK IIRC.

That guard outside the cell is fairly easy to take out if you do it in stages, ie: sneak to the desk first and hide in the shadow underneath.

	01-08-2004 06:09									#33
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i found taking the guard out easier by wating for him to walking past the open cell door . after grabbing the baton from hallway of course.

	01-08-2004 10:21									#34
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus If you mean the guards in the robotic maintenance bay - don't even bother trying to fight. Just sneak as far as you can across the place, then, when you're spotted, run for the exit.

you can fight(that is them if we are thinking of the same place) but you have to be pretty good. i think i managed to do it on hard or whatever setting below realistic is(never tried realistic yet). there is pretty good cover and you can always run away(the bots don't seem to follow) so you can try again after they calm down. iirc you can also hack a computer so some bots fight for you.

	01-08-2004 11:13									#35
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If you mean the military bots, you could try fighting, but there really isn't any point. Getting behind them is child's play, and once you get inside, you can use a security computer to deactivate them.

	01-08-2004 11:16									#36
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yes fighting is for wimps who dont have the balls to try to figure out how to make it without the explosions ...

	01-08-2004 15:33									#37
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Good to see people still enjoying this classic.

	02-08-2004 21:09									#38
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ok into the final scenes now... have to make my choice...

do i join the illuminati

do i destroy them

do i mind meld with a computer...


hmmmm which option gives me the girls !!!!!!

	02-08-2004 23:59									#39
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Someone's been playing a lot.

	03-08-2004 12:12									#40
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I like setting the end save-game up so that to complete any ending you only need to do a simple thing like enter a single code or such. Isn't too hard once you get the UCs closed.

	03-08-2004 12:37									#41
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Yeah, that's the way to go.

I had quite a time with the final level, I remember that I kept running out of everything. I had to calculate my use of multitools and ammo very carefully and tried to exhaust any other options when opening locks and whatnot. Fun.

	03-08-2004 12:51									#42
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Funny... I always found that Iwas overflowing with equipment by the end, to the point where I could do almost anything I wanted to.

	03-08-2004 12:56									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin ok into the final scenes now... have to make my choice... do i join the illuminati do i destroy them do i mind meld with a computer... hmmmm which option gives me the girls !!!!!!

Well, you're unlikely to get any girls if you're a small cloud of gas floating around in the upper atmosphere, and you probably won't be very interested once you've merged with Helios (although you might well discover other things that are even more ejnoyable), so I'd advise you to go with the Iluminati ending.

	03-08-2004 13:32									#44
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I had heaps of some types of equipment that I just didn't use. Light darts, phosphorus rockets, shotgun shells, I never tended to use these things at all during the game.

	03-08-2004 13:36									#45
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quote: phosphorus rockets,

WHAT!? How could you possibly not use those things? They absolutely slaughter groups of infantry, and they have the added benefit of setting people on fire and causing them to run around screaming and igniting other things.

	03-08-2004 13:40									#46
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Sniper rifle.

	03-08-2004 14:07									#47
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While the sniper rifle is god once you get it up to 100% accuracy, I'd like to see you use it to take down squads of guys who emerge at medium to short range without getting severely injured. I'd also like to see you use it around a corner.

	03-08-2004 14:40									#48
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Who cares about getting slightly injured, to be honest? F10.

	03-08-2004 14:45									#49
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Given that on realistic a single pistol shot to the torso can put you down, and a few assault shotgun slugs or a couple of AR bursts will have the same effect, yes, you should most certainly worry about injury. Regen is only useful if you remain alive to use it.

	03-08-2004 14:49									#50
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The proper use of a sniper rifle is to ensure that there are no enemies left alive in the medium to short range by the time you actually get to the area. Take them out before they are even aware of you. I have played the game through on realistic.

	03-08-2004 14:52									#51
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Yes, I believe you said that, and, yes, nailing enemies before they are aware of you is always to be preferred... however, in many of the indoor areas (the shootout at the 'Ton and Area 51 spring to mind), this is basically impossible. Given a WP rocket is capable of killing entire elevator-loads of bad guys, or clearing corridors with great efficiency, they can come in very handy.

	03-08-2004 14:53									#52
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Undoubtedly. In such situations I normally use the HE attachment to the minigun though, which is always fun.

	03-08-2004 14:55									#53
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I assume you mean the AR? I tried it out once or twice, once I actually found myself some HE ammo, but given that the GEP gun could as much and more as the HE rounds, and the standard ammo from the AR is utterly useless, I could never justify lugging an AR around solely to use HE shots.

	03-08-2004 15:03									#54
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Its been a while since I played, so the names may not be accurate. I found the standard bullets useful as well. A few into someone's head generally worked well, plus the abundance of ammo for it makes it useful.

	03-08-2004 15:05									#55
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I always found that it required half a clip to a full one to actually kill anybody, and the recoil precluded for headshots. If I want to shoot people in the head, I'll use a pistol or sniper rifle, or a crossbow, for that matter.

	03-08-2004 15:46									#56
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sniper rifle is probably the most powerful weapon in the game if used right. if you have infinite ammo for it the game would be so easy it'd be boring. iirc you were limited to only being able to carry a small number of rockets, right? i also really like the stealth pistol w/ lots of mods and fully skilled.

	03-08-2004 15:48									#57
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You do small bursts of fire with the AR and not only do you conserve ammo for your kills, but recoil doesn't have much effect on your aim for that small period of time. Crossbow's own in the early part of the game.

	03-08-2004 16:07									#58
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus I always found that it required half a clip to a full one to actually kill anybody, and the recoil precluded for headshots. If I want to shoot people in the head, I'll use a pistol or sniper rifle, or a crossbow, for that matter.

Recoil isn't a problem if you train with rifles. When I played through and specialized in rifles my laser sighted and silenced AR was unstoppable. Pistols are prefered early in the game for quick head shots, but I found that in the later stages a pistol couldn't kill in a single shot, no matter what, and an AR actually does the job quicker in those circumstances.

	03-08-2004 16:08									#59
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Oh, and when you're fully trained with a modded rifle you can put an entire clip of bullets right into someone's head with ease. Does wonders for the bosses and other tough enemies.

	03-08-2004 16:10									#60
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Hmmm. Interesting. I'll have to try that, if I can find room in my inventory...