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shotguns suck. probably the worse weapon, eh? take up a lot of space you never seem to have a good ammo supply and using them is a pain. the assault shotgun is probably almost worse than the regular one as it uses so much ammo. or was there a way to only fire it once?
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Guynemer
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Reading this thread has put me in the mood to once again fire up Deus Ex. I don't think I'll ever get "DX2".
The last time, I went through the game without outright killing anyone except spoiler(highlight to read):
Ana, Gunther, and Simons.
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However, I did render a whole heckuva lot of people "unconscious", which is essentially the same thing. Maybe I'll try to get through without even doing that...
Oh wait, I also had to kill a handful of MJ-12 troopers, MiB, and various animals. Dammit.
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GeneralTacticus
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of Melbourne, Australia
Dec 2001
time: 15:37
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Originally posted by ravagon
Interesting.
I love the sniper rifle but could find very little use from the AR - it was fine on the low levels but on realistic it just used up far too much ammo for too little an effect. |
Same here - I was really annoyed to find that I'd generally have to reload the AR after every kill. One of my favourite pet peeves regarding DX is that it lacks a genuine assault weapon - it has some stuff you can use for that (like the assault shotgun), but they always have something that prevent them from being as useful as a real assault rifle could be.
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I found recoil to be a problem even at advanced skill level and could never get the hang of the ballistic arc of the HE shells.
The std sawed-off shotgun though was a wonder - I could often get single-shot kills on guards at a range beyond my pistol and the sabot shells worked well on camera's and spider bots (saved my rockets for those hard-to-pick locks). It did absorb a lot of my extended clip mods though.
Never really tried the assault shotgun simply because it would've meant dropping a stack of EMP grenades which can come in rather handy.
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Strange... I rarely, if ever, managed to get single-shot kills with the the sawed-off shotgun, which rendered it kind of useless, because of it's ridiculously low ROF. I was sold on the Assault Shotgun the moment I pulled one off the shelf in MJ12 armoury, fired it at the wall, and noted the sheer number of holes after holding the trigger down for a few seconds.
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Something else I never had time for - the stealth pistol. I couldn't hit anybody in the head with it unless they were < 5m away! Even then it'd often nick the shoulder or something. I remember the MJ12 building in HK with me sitting in the vent trying to pick off the guards with this thing (the venting poison gas only ever got rid of a single guard for me) and using up a whole clip without even hitting the guy sitting at the desk.
It was silenced of course so he didn't even notice the bullets spanging off every conceivable surface nor feel the rush of air as they passed within cm of his face. 
I find it hard to believe that the difference in accuracy between that thing and my std heavy-duty sidearm is only 5%. |
I used that once, in the Battery Park subway station. After that, I concluded that it was utterly useless, and never used it again (except to give to Gilbert Renton for protection).
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Incidentally is there anybody who ever used the plasma rifle?
I though it good in principle but as it takes up as much space as the GEP gun, hindered movement just as much and seemed to be far less effective. |
On my first completed game, I lugged it from the MJ12 facility beneath UNATCO right up to the very end without ever finding a use for it. It might have been a bit more useful if it had been smaller (I mean, really, take a look at it when it's lying on the ground; the GEP gun is easily twice it's size), but I found it outclassed in every way by the other weapons available.
EDIT: It is, however, exceedingly annoying in the hands of the enemy, since the incoming shots glow brightly enough to blind you to anything else. I recall one time when I hit ESC just as I was being hit by a plasma bolt - the glare was so bright I couldn't read the stuff on the main menu. A shame this doesn't work on the AI.
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you guys don't like the stealth pistol? that's my favorite weapon probably. i love it because modded up it's very good and you have tons, and tons of ammo for it. i could usually get a few headshots in a row making it take down even tougher enemies. a really great combo is gas grenades and the stealth pistol. gas makes enemies stand still and then you can't miss head shots.
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