17-07-2004 06:07									#61
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the interface dialogue interface annoyed me as well.

and you can repeatedly threaten someone, and they keep saying the same thing. I was trying to provoke them into attacking me, but they wouldn't do it

Even games like NWN/KOTOR suffer from dialogue problems. You should not be able to repeat the same dialogue option over and over to get the result you want.

	17-07-2004 15:39									#62
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I preferred KOTOR's dialogue to NWN I have to say, though you are right it wasn't perfect.

	18-07-2004 01:19									#63
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Bethesda is going to throw this away and create thier Fallowind

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=127


http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=128

quote: GS: Will Bethesda's Fallout 3 retain any elements of the "Van Buren" game that was in development at Black Isle Studios? Reports are that it was nearly complete. TH: No, we're going to start fresh.

	18-07-2004 01:48									#64
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I get a nice 'Not authorized' page when I click these URLs...

	18-07-2004 02:02									#65
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quote: I get a nice 'Not authorized' page when I click these URLs...

copying and pasting the url works.

	18-07-2004 04:10									#66
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what are those screen shots supposed to be? is that the game already in development? That wold be fast work if that was the case.

	18-07-2004 04:46									#67
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No. They are from the cancelled Fallout 3.

This is the new screenshot from Bethesda's version:

	18-07-2004 04:46									#68
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Notice SPECIAL is replaced by STUPID.

	18-07-2004 05:18									#69
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heh, of course they are starting fresh it'd be a screwed up game if they didn't. you can't just pick up some game halfway done and complete it with a different team. they probably couldn't even figure out what everything does right away even with the source code(and i doubt it's documented well).

it would be a shame for "Van Buren" never to get released if it was really close to being done(which doesn't look like it). maybe it'll be a freebie with fo3 or open sourced.

	19-07-2004 03:31									#70
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quote: Morrowind isn't that buggy. Very stable compared to the first release of Fallout 2 at least.

Very true. Fallout2 make Morrowind look incredibly stable. I'm looking forward to the new Fallout.

	19-07-2004 05:10									#71
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quote: Originally posted by pg heh, of course they are starting fresh it'd be a screwed up game if they didn't. you can't just pick up some game halfway done and complete it with a different team. they probably couldn't even figure out what everything does right away even with the source code(and i doubt it's documented well). it would be a shame for "Van Buren" never to get released if it was really close to being done(which doesn't look like it). maybe it'll be a freebie with fo3 or open sourced.

source code would be very cool. But I doubt it. too many companies are too paranoid or embarrassed to do it

I give kudos to those gusy who made Call to Power 1 and 2 for doing it. The games may have sucked, but at least they did a cool thing by releasing the code.

	19-07-2004 08:50									#72
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Considering how badly Interplay needs money right now I don't see them just giving out code.

	19-07-2004 12:26									#73
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@ that Paint masterpiece

-Jam

	19-07-2004 16:37									#74
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whats there to laugh at - Apoclypse is their lead graphic artist i heard, i kinda like it in its retro way. reminds me a little of daggerfall

	20-07-2004 05:20									#75
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It's not mine. Good idea though.

	20-07-2004 05:29									#76
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It's the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

	20-07-2004 05:36									#77
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i thought bethesda owns the "Van Buren" code now and they've released arena for free download. so you never know what could happen.

	20-07-2004 05:51									#78
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No, they don't own the code. And Interplay is making Fallout Online, so..

	20-07-2004 23:04									#79
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Fallout Online? Sweet

	21-07-2004 03:56									#80
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Interplay is dead, how can they make anything? anyways they are a publisher, not a devloper iirc.

	21-07-2004 22:24									#81
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They are retaining the rights to make all MMO Fallout material. If someone is dumb enough to bail them out that's probably how they'll waste the next injection of cash before cancelling it to save costs

	22-07-2004 00:43									#82
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They have gotten injections of cash recently...through the Fallout and Freespace licenses.

	22-07-2004 07:43									#83
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Goto:

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/al...t.php?cat_id=39

For some more Van Buren screenshots. From what remember hearing is that Van Buren was at least 50% done ( I think even closer to 75% ). However Interplay had no money and had to cancel the project.

	22-07-2004 07:57									#84
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No, they had money, they just wanted to spend it on other things.

	22-07-2004 08:02									#85
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Like what?

Would they really cancel a game that was definetly more then 50% done in order to spend money on something else? That is a tremendous loss of money.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IPLY.OB&d=t

This second link has headline:
Interplay says lacks enough funds for rest of qtr
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040625/media_interplay_1.html

Seems to me they had no money.

	22-07-2004 21:41									#86
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Interesting screen shots.

I do look forward to fallout3 if it comes out.

But with all games, I take a wait and see approach. Even sequals you can't trust too much now days. But I'd rather see a game made, rather than no game at all. If it sucks, well then, we move on. As I've said, I think there's a 50% chance this game could be good. Now days, those are good odds.

	23-07-2004 01:16									#87
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that screenshot which suggests multiplayer is interesting... fallout would be cool in co-op mode or maybe with scenarios. perhaps even something like ctf or deathmatch might be fun but you'd have to play that in real time.
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	23-07-2004 15:29									#88
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quote: Originally posted by I Am Jeff Like what?

Console development. They thought that they had more chance of selling more on console titles, but they overlooked that the games they were making for consoles were crap so nobody bought them.