13-07-2004 08:23									#1
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Good news: Fallout isn't dead. According to Gamespot

quote: Role-playing gamers everywhere got a jolt of adrenaline today when Bethesda Softworks announced that it has licensed the Fallout franchise. Under the terms of the deal, Bethesda acquired exclusive international rights to publish Fallout games on PCs, consoles, handhelds, and other media from its current holder, troubled publisher Interplay. Interplay will still retain ownership of the Fallout intellectual property.

	13-07-2004 08:34									#2
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What is Fallout? Why isn't Bethesda bending over backwards to give me Elder Scrolls 4? Is Fallout like Morrowind?

	13-07-2004 08:41									#3
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What is Baldur's Gate like?

	13-07-2004 09:40									#4
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Stop being silly Verto .

	13-07-2004 09:51									#5
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Wow.......yay yay yay.

Morrowind is my favorite RPG after Fallout. It has a great atmosphere in terms of game interaction (like Fallout) except for not being able to say much in dialog (very much unlike Fallout) and there aren't too many ways to complete things (unlike Fallout) but not completely. But for many fedex quests in Morrowind, there were multiple places to get the item. Not always, especially in some upper level faction quests, but there were some.

	13-07-2004 09:57									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Verto Why isn't Bethesda bending over backwards to give me Elder Scrolls 4?

This answers you're question:

quote: According to Bethesda, Fallout 3 will be developed alongside the next Elder Scrolls and under the direction of executive producer Todd Howard. Also, since Bethesda is currently hiring developers for "future-generation consoles," a GameCube, PlayStation 2, or Xbox version of Fallout 3 is highly unlikely.

So we have another good news: Elder Scrolls 4 is in the oven.

	13-07-2004 09:58									#7
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ES4 been known for a while though.

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they'll **** it up. It might be good, but it wont be the same.

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Of course it's not going to be the same. But at least it will be atmospheric. Not the ideal company, but I don't really like what Bioware has put out recently anyway. Troika might be best, but it would be up in the air.

About ES4. It's supposedly about Oblivion. From the book On Oblivion:

quote: In preparation for the second chapter of this series, I will be investigating two matters that have intrigued me since I began my career as a daedra researcher. The first is on one particular Daedra Prince, referred to in multiple articles of incunabula as Hircine. Hircine has been called "the huntsman of the Princes" and "the father of manbeasts," but I have yet to find anyone who can summon him. The other, and more doubtful goal I have for the next chapter is to find a practical means for mortal man to pass through to Oblivion. It has always been my philosophy that we only need fear that which we do not understand, and with that thought in mind, I pursue my goal.

	13-07-2004 10:47									#10
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Goody, now Fallout will look really pretty and have enough bugs to make it nearly unplayable . Bethesda desperately needs to hire some PROGRAMMERS to complement its designers.

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Morrowind isn't that buggy. Very stable compared to the first release of Fallout 2 at least.

	13-07-2004 11:39									#12
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Looking at the ES forums....most people there have bad ideas about RPGs. They see Morrowind as almost perfect. It was good, but it had a lot of things lacking. Meh.

	13-07-2004 13:10									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Morrowind isn't that buggy.

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Any projected release dates for either game?

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i see this as positive. as flawed as morrowind is it's still a good game. i think they'll have a hard time screwing up fallout as all the have to really do is expand on fallout 2 without breaking it. bethesda has proven imo that they can make sequels at least as good quality as the previous games(look at the tes series). this is really about as good a chance as the fallout series has to continue.

supposedly tes4 was almost shown at e3 so it should be coming along pretty well. 2005 is when it will be released from what i know.

	13-07-2004 16:53									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Verto What is Baldur's Gate like?

It's kinda like those elder scrolls games, only good.

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quote: Originally posted by pg i see this as positive. as flawed as morrowind is it's still a good game.......edit

I agree - Bethseda are probably one of the better chances for Fallout3. Just hope it wont detract from the attention that TES4 should get.
I would call this a welcome bit of good news in my bleak world of games

	13-07-2004 18:25									#18
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Fallout
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	13-07-2004 20:09									#19
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quote: Morrowind isn't that buggy

damn thats funny!

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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd It's kinda like those elder scrolls games, only good.

	13-07-2004 20:47									#21
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That's good news. I just wish they'd get on with ES4 and announce already.

	13-07-2004 21:08									#22
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I'm a little concerned, as they stated in an interview on IGN that they were going to stick to "gaming styles they know," implying to me that Fallout3 could be more Morrowind-y in style, which is somewhat worrisome...

	13-07-2004 22:23									#23
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I think we can say goodbye to isometric Fallout, but since Bethesda actually make games instead of half finishing them before cancelling, at least it will hit the shelves so we can play and criticise it. The last attempt was at least the third time Fallout 3 was specced up and dropped by Interplay

That reminds me, weren't there a couple of other wasteland games in production? Maybe one of them can become champion of the isometric game design school

	14-07-2004 01:11									#24
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Wow. I guess I have become old and jaded. Game announcements used to excite me. Now I have more of a wait-and-see-what-a-piece-of-crap-they-build attitude.

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quote: Wow. I guess I have become old and jaded. Game announcements used to excite me. Now I have more of a wait-and-see-what-a-piece-of-crap-they-build attitude.

me too.

	14-07-2004 05:44									#26
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sounds good to me. Though they are an entirely different style of company. the game may not look the same. But I think the game needs some fresh changes. I have hope this game will turn out well.

	14-07-2004 05:47									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us they'll **** it up. It might be good, but it wont be the same.

and people have called me a pessimist.

It's a good company. And like I said above, fallout could use a shot of fresh energy. There's at least a 50% chance this game will be good.

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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Of course it's not going to be the same. But at least it will be atmospheric. Not the ideal company, but I don't really like what Bioware has put out recently anyway. Troika might be best, but it would be up in the air. About ES4. It's supposedly about Oblivion. From the book On Oblivion:

heretic! Bioware is god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

	14-07-2004 05:48									#29
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Goody, now Fallout will look really pretty and have enough bugs to make it nearly unplayable . Bethesda desperately needs to hire some PROGRAMMERS to complement its designers.

Morrowind wasn't buggy at all.

	14-07-2004 05:50									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us quote: Morrowind isn't that buggy damn thats funny!

what bugs? True, I played later, after the serveral patches. If there were bugs, the patches seemed to clean them up. I didn't notice any. Of course I still haven't finished the game . I got bored of it.