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The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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LOS ANGELES - A spokesman for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) said Sunday that the governor would not apologize for calling lawmakers "girlie men," despite criticisms from Democrats that the remark was sexist and homophobic.


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Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests.


"If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario.


The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection.


Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to "blatant homophobia."


"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.


"It's ironic that the governor would try to find a metaphor for weakness when his real problem is that we're being too strong," she added.


Schwarzenegger's criticism of Democrats stems in part from their support of one bill prohibiting schools from contracting services with private companies, and another giving workers authority to sue their employers to enforce labor laws. Each side accuses the other of caving in to special interests.


At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to the one he delivered in Ontario but without the "girlie men" remark. Spokesman Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted his remarks.


"It's a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around," Stutzman said. "If they complain too much about this, I guess they're making the governor's point."


Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was.


"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said. "It was no question a very, very insensitive comment to make. I personally am not intimidated or threatened by it, but I think it really is beneath Gov. Schwarzenegger."


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It's true.

Arnold for prez!!!

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I always thought that "girlie men" was an invention/exaggeration by Hanz and Franz. Is this life imitating art (if Saturday Night Live could be called "art")?

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The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection.




now, what i don't get is why they're actually that offended by it to start bashing arnold for "homophobia".

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Meh. Sexist comments from a sex criminal are hardly surprising.

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"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said.


Hello! It was supposed to be derogatory!

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".....said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus."

and I thought the UK had problems......

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There's nothing wrong with being like a girl, and yet the tone taken by the governor suggests that there is. Hang him high!

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The best part is that "girlie men" would have to sound especially insulting when pronounced in Arnold's heavy accent.

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Meh. Sexist comments from a sex criminal are hardly surprising.


sex criminal? I'm awaiting a conviction.

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Ah, but he ran as a Republican, so it must be true! However, all accusations against Bill Clinton are false.

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sex criminal? I'm awaiting a conviction.


He admitted it.

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So I want to say to you: yes, that I have behaved badly sometimes. Yes, it is true that I was on rowdy movie sets and I have done things that were not right which I thought then was playful, but now I recognize that I have offended people.


His being "playful" were things that could get most people arrested for sexual assault. Go ahead and walk up to a strange woman and grab her breasts or butt and see what happens to you.

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Go, Arnold!

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Was watching end of days last night, He shoots a guy to make sure hes not satan, the guy cries out and Arnold says "stop being such a sissy!".

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Meh. Sexist comments from a sex criminal are hardly surprising.


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He admitted it.



His being "playful" were things that could get most people arrested for sexual assault. Go ahead and walk up to a strange woman and grab her breasts or butt and see what happens to you.


I do it all the time at strip clubs. never charged with sexual assault.

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Despite being a liberal weenie myself, to Arnold.

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I do it all the time at strip clubs. never charged with sexual assault.


Because, perhaps, the women allow you to do it, since it's a strip club?

Go walk down the sidewalk and do it to an unwilling woman and see what happens. Really.

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Boris is just angry because he's a girlie man

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I'm not angry, I think those complaining about should just consider the source and realize he can't really be expected to behave any better.

And last night I was hit on by 3 different women--cute ones, too. They must have found me manly-man enough.

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I'm not angry, I think those complaining about should just consider the source and realize he can't really be expected to behave any better.


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The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection.


I would bet, rather, that he used it for the comic relief

Really, isn't that just a funny phrase to hear in a Schwarzenegger-voice?

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It's funny how the PC types take this girlie comment so seriously.

Most normal people would take it as a joke. Some people have no sense of humour.

and I don't see how it is derogatory to homosexuals. Not all homosexuals are "girlie" men. The reference doesn't apply to gays. It applies to weak men with no upper body strength.

And how can it be derogatory to women? It's **** like this that pisses me off. Why can't we admit women are not equal to men with regards to upper body strength. Why do we have to pretend women are just as good as men in every category. The fact is womens' bodies are "girlie". This is not a bad thing.

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His being "playful" were things that could get most people arrested for sexual assault. Go ahead and walk up to a strange woman and grab her breasts or butt and see what happens to you.


Damn... I guess we should lock up a lot of men who worked in offices with women in the 50s and 60s (ie, slapping on the butt).

And I guess sex criminal Bill Clinton should be locked up as well.

Besides would it have been considered sexual assault when he did the acts?

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The fact is womens' bodies are "girlie". This is not a bad thing.


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for saying it
for sticking by it...there's way too much apologizing going on for what you say

 
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