25-07-2004 15:11									#271
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I like the rules. No mix-ups or "but if my player gets injured" crap

	25-07-2004 15:14									#272
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I figured we needed some rules for this stuff and they've been too rigid for the last few years anyway.

	25-07-2004 16:00									#273
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quote: Chris' rule is that you can change your BAPAY within 12 picks of your original BAPAY pick.

That hasn't been the rule before. The rule has been you can't change your BAPAY if the person following you picks (that's how I remember it anyway).

	25-07-2004 17:20									#274
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I'd like to call for a vote on this matter: (I know, I'm a baby)

If 2/3rds vote yes, Slow gets Steve Smith and Imran gets to replace Ricky Williams with an available player only, not players who've been taken. I understand the reason for BAPAYs but I think we need some flexibility, at least for the first 5 or 6 rounds when picks are really important. This should be fun and it ain't fun getting BAPAYed in the first few rounds nor is it fun losing your first or second pick to an early retirement or get injured. If it happens later on in the draft it's still a bitter pill but one that goes down alot easier than losing an early pick.

I vote yes

	25-07-2004 17:25									#275
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C'mon Kalius, you'd want to replace an early BAPAY or injury too if it happened to you.

"Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you"

	25-07-2004 18:26									#276
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It's fine with me if Sloww and Imran want their picks replaced.

	25-07-2004 18:55									#277
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i'm going to start leaving lists.
Geting called stupid is hard on my heart.





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	25-07-2004 18:57									#278
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If we're still waiting for a final vote to determine whether or not Sloww and Imran get to replace their picks, put me down for yes on both AS LONG AS the clock doesn't start for me until this gets resolved.

(Of course, I now say a big hearty "F**K YOU" to Ricky, because I was targeting Rudi Johnson here and now Imran gets to steal him just before I can take him.)

If this has already been resolved... tell me that ASAP. I've got a bunch of things to do today and I don't want to unnecessarily delay this draft any more than it already has been.

Man, the Jets fans around me must be doing happy dances this morning... Miami's screwed.

	25-07-2004 19:17									#279
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I fully support the actions of the commisioner.

I have no objections to the changes in Imran's and Sloww's picks.

The 6-pick BAPAY delay is fine as long as players subsequently drafted are not affected.

Ricky Williams should be declared a free agent (can be drafted by anyone). So if he unretires (or someone wants to take a chance), he's fair game, and there will be no whining or rule-changing at that point. (Cool, Imram?)

This is supposed to be for fun, guys. Let's try to keep it that way.

	25-07-2004 20:17									#280
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I have no objections to the change in picks either. This is for fun, and bragging rights.

If we were playing for big f'ing bucks, then I would be putting up a fuss!

	25-07-2004 21:22									#281
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit Ricky Williams should be declared a free agent (can be drafted by anyone). So if he unretires (or someone wants to take a chance), he's fair game, and there will be no whining or rule-changing at that point. (Cool, Imram?)

I also vote yes w/ this stipulation.

Lets draft

	25-07-2004 21:27									#282
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YES! already, get on with the draft!

ACK!

	25-07-2004 21:53									#283
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quote: The 6-pick BAPAY delay is fine as long as players subsequently drafted are not affected.

That what my rule trys to say (whether it succeeded is another matter ). If their is an objection by someone who was picking, we'll have to work something out.

quote: Ricky Williams should be declared a free agent

Yep, my rule states that as well. I give up all rights to Rickey.

quote: I was targeting Rudi Johnson here and now Imran gets to steal him just before I can take him

If you want you can pick someone I'll tell you in PM and we can trade the picks.

	25-07-2004 21:59									#284
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Btw, it seems there is acceptance of the new rules here. So Reismark is up and has 24 hours from 1:00 Sunday.

	25-07-2004 22:16									#285
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui If you want you can pick someone I'll tell you in PM and we can trade the picks.

Keeping this in mind, Kyrandia selects (again) Travis Henry, RB Buffalo Bills.

Make that trade happen, Imran.

	25-07-2004 22:20									#286
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Ok, Me and Reis trade picks... Reis gets Rudi Johnson, Cin, and I get Travis Henry, Buff.

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovab NcNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)

The Zopper is up!

	25-07-2004 22:31									#287
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The Zopper selects Hines Ward, wideout for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovab NcNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08
3.09
3.10
3.11
3.12

Dissident is on the clock!

	26-07-2004 00:43									#288
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	26-07-2004 01:12									#289
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I'll be back around 9 pm, I don't have enough time to research players and leave a list

	26-07-2004 03:47									#290
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I missed all kinds of excitment.

6 people seems like a long time to change your pick. I don't like it. But I'm okay with Imran and Sloww changing their picks. I'm not big on the Rudi/Travis Henry switch. But we'll just call it a trade.

now I have a lot of research to do for my next pick. I should be done in 30 mintues or so though.

	26-07-2004 03:52									#291
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quote: But we'll just call it a trade.

Well it was a trade .

	26-07-2004 03:54									#292
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quote: 6 people seems like a long time to change your pick. I don't like it.

Well, that's just in case you are late, by say an hour and 6 people have gone through and picked. It could happen. But we want to cap it at some level of picks. Half round sounds good to me.

	26-07-2004 04:05									#293
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I still say only 1/12 of a round, but that's my opinion.

	26-07-2004 04:07									#294
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Dissident selects Brian Westbrook, Running Back and kick returner for the Philadelphia Eagles 1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks 2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat 3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers 4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers 5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men 6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks 7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros 8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers 9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies 10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers 11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders 12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus 1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC) 1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD) 1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND) 1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB) 1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF) 1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA) 1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO) 1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND) 1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS) 1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL) 1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN) 1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN) 2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC) 2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF) 2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND) 2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL) 2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL) 2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU) 2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI) 2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA) 2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR) 2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN) 2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE) 2.01 Donovab NcNabb, QB (PHI) 3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN) 3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL) 3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR) 3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC) 3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI) 3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN) 3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT) 3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI) 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 -Jrabbit is on the clock!

	26-07-2004 07:53									#295
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quote: i'm going to start leaving lists. Geting called stupid is hard on my heart.

Hehe, it's not that you didn't leave a list or got BAPAYed, it's because you popped into the thread to shout BAPAY while it was your turn.

	26-07-2004 08:17									#297
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Santana Moss is now a Cute Little Bunny.

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

ROUND THREE

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10
3.11
3.12

Berzerker is on the clock. Sending PM.

	26-07-2004 08:49									#298
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Good pick JRabb He was who I was debating over with Boldin.

	26-07-2004 08:49									#299
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1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovab NcNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11
3.12

	26-07-2004 09:16									#300
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The first Bear chosen is a RB, selection #34.
Will Thomas Jones be Paytonesque?