25-07-2004 09:36									#241
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How is this handled? I see it as no harm/no foul (unless tuberski has a hard-on for Travis Henry -- which I doubt, since he has 2 RBs).

	25-07-2004 10:00									#242
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No problem for me. Except it's slowwy........



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	25-07-2004 10:21									#243
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I'll assume that means the Steve Smith pick stands, that Travis Henry is now available, and that Japher is on the clock.

	25-07-2004 10:24									#244
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* Kalius sniggers profusely at Imran

You took Ricky Williams a day before he retired

	25-07-2004 10:35									#245
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Sorry Sloww... but you know the rules, you can't change a BAPAY after the next person AFTER you has picked. You are stuck with Henry.

And ****! You have to be kidding me . Damnit! I guess I'll have a Hell of time coming back in this league now.

	25-07-2004 10:36									#246
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1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Ricky Williams, RB (MIA)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovab NcNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)

Japher is on the clock.

	25-07-2004 10:44									#247
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Btw, is there any support for me to make a replacement pick for Williams since he was only in the 2nd round (and this is the 3rd)?

If there is opposition, I'll understand.

	25-07-2004 10:45									#248
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I feel for Sloww... I just moved today, and if I wasn't wise enough to have my internet installed yesterday I would get Bapay'd too

Anyway the move went smooth, sort of getting settled in, as much as you can for a fix'r upper. We hired movers who ROCKED! My budy who is a computer genius, has a resumee that can knock the socks of any of you computer geeks (speeking out of ignorance), and is about to get his EE set me up with the computer and my entertainment center... he rocks too drove all the way from Sac to do so.

Anyway, I pick

Anquan Boldin, WR, Arizona... Thanks Tubers, you made my pick much more easy

	25-07-2004 10:47									#249
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quote: I feel for Sloww

Yeah, but he was online and instead of actually reading the thread and realizing he was up, he screamed "BAPAY!" and left.

I would have let him change it if Tubers hadn't made his pick, but if the next guy makes his pick, you can't change a BAPAY, unless everyone agrees to let him change his pick. We can vote on it if he wants.

	25-07-2004 10:48									#250
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fine. like thats worse than me?

	25-07-2004 10:54									#251
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I say Sloww can have Steve Smith only if Imran doesn't want him, as Imran got screwed while Sloww was just being lazy... But who can blame him.

	25-07-2004 10:58									#252
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Well I don't want Smith. I'd rather replace Williams with another RB.

	25-07-2004 11:02									#253
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I say that Williams retiring post-choice is the same as a player getting a leg amputated post-draft.

No sympathy

	25-07-2004 11:03									#254
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Ok, Imran trades out Williams for Tiki Barber

	25-07-2004 11:08									#255
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Hell, I'll even do that Japher. At least Barber will make some yardage. It ain't my first choice, but better than a total waste.

Though I guess I should see if he changes his mind by tomorrow or something .

	25-07-2004 12:00									#256
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I feel for you Imran, I really do.

ACK!

	25-07-2004 12:01									#257
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quote: Btw, is there any support for me to make a replacement pick for Williams since he was only in the 2nd round (and this is the 3rd)?

quote: Sorry Sloww... but you know the rules

Them's the breaks, I took Jamal and he might be in prison soon

Actually Imran, I could care less. If you'll let Slow have Steve Smith instead of Henry I won't object to you replacing Williams... I just wanna see if you'll sacrifice your principled adherence to those rules

	25-07-2004 12:04									#258
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker quote: Btw, is there any support for me to make a replacement pick for Williams since he was only in the 2nd round (and this is the 3rd)? Them's the breaks, I took Jamal and he might be in prison soon Actually Imran, I could care less. If you'll let Slow have Steve Smith instead of Henry I won't object to you replacing Williams... I just wanna see if you'll sacrifice your principled adherence to those rules

My feelings exactly.....



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	25-07-2004 12:10									#259
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quote: If you'll let Slow have Steve Smith instead of Henry I won't object to you replacing Williams

Only if everyone else votes yes, just like every other rule.

	25-07-2004 12:14									#260
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Like I said I have no problem with Slowwy, also no real problem with your predicament.

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	25-07-2004 12:15									#261
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But Kalius voted no for me, so it's a moot point. However Sloww can still get his change made, but I'm not sure if Kalius meant to vote no for him as well with his post right after Sloww's 'pick'.

	25-07-2004 12:31									#262
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I voted no for Sloww, too.

	25-07-2004 12:32									#263
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So that's that then. Reismark is up.

	25-07-2004 12:35									#264
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quote: Originally posted by Kalius I voted no for Sloww, too.

Just remeber that when Michael "toothpick legs" Vick breaks his ankle in preseason again.......



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	25-07-2004 12:42									#265
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If that happens then bad luck on my part. I see no difference in Williams retiring than someone breaking their ankle in preseason. If the latter happens then do we go all the way back to round 3 and pick someone else?

And Sloww was just stupid

	25-07-2004 12:44									#266
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quote: Originally posted by Kalius If that happens then bad luck on my part. I see no difference in Williams retiring than someone breaking their ankle in preseason. If the latter happens then do we go all the way back to round 3 and pick someone else? And Sloww was just stupid

Okay the Sloww point is a good one.....

ACK!

	25-07-2004 13:56									#267
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Hmm... perhaps next year we should go to a more FFZ policy on BAPAY's and injuries... or even for baseball (listening Berz? )

	25-07-2004 14:36									#268
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What is the FFZ policy? I was talking to Ming and he said there is a second draft following the official draft for players who get injured after they're picked. Last year FFZ's rule on BAPAYs was you could replace a BAPAY if no one else picked after you but I seem to recall getting BAPAYed last year in the baseball draft and they let me replace the guy because I was about 30 minutes late and the BAPAY rule was so harsh - 4 hours starting at 9 am est and there were about 8 people before me who all picked in about 45 minutes so when I checked the thread around 2 pm est my turn had already passed by.

	25-07-2004 14:48									#269
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Screw this... after much discussion and details with people in other forums, in the interest of just freaking fairness, I'm going to make some Commish rules.

BAPAY: You can change your pick within the next 6 picks (half round), as long as no one in those next 6 (or less, depending on when you make the change) picks disagrees with the BAPAY (ie, they wanted the BAPAY pick or someone else).

Slow, you can have Smith, since Tubes and Japher didn't mind.

Injury: If a player has a major injury (4 games+) and you want to replace him during the draft with someone who has not been drafted yet, you are allowed to do so, only you give up ALL rights to the injured player.

I count resignation as an injury (oh and Berz, going to prision is the same as well)

You may think these rules are self-serving and that's fine. But I think it integral to the league's fairness that we allow these rule changes. If you don't like 'em, I'm sorry. If you think that it is sacrificing principles, then so be it. Unless I hear unanimous negative reaction to these rules, I'm going to keep them in force.

Hell, I realized why the Hell am I Commish (and put up this aggravation) if I can't make some arbitrary rules now and again .

Here is the CURRENT draft board:

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovab NcNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)

Reismark, yer up.

Last edited by Imran Siddiqui on 25-07-2004 at 15:14

	25-07-2004 14:50									#270
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quote: What is the FFZ policy?

Chris' rule is that you can change your BAPAY within 12 picks of your original BAPAY pick.