20-07-2004 05:06									#1
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I'm curiuos to all the factors that go into it. Anyone know?

	20-07-2004 06:21									#2
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alexman, probably

	20-07-2004 07:00									#3
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A couple of links for you, Diss...

From Theseus' Must-Read Threads thread

The CFC article by Oystein

Basically, you accumulate points based on units being attacked, units ending the turn in foreign territory, enemy units ending a turn in your territory, losing units, losing cities, etc. and, depending on your government, see the effects at various thresholds. Once peace breaks out, you gradually shed the WW points until you're back at zero.

	21-07-2004 06:00									#4
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I figured no one would know the answer

thanks for the links

	21-07-2004 07:54									#5
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I know that if your in a Republic or Democracy, and go to war, people get unhappy. That's enough

	21-07-2004 08:08									#6
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Hey, I knew the answer. I just couldn't be asked to recall it, you pantload.

	21-07-2004 08:19									#7
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Sure you did

	21-07-2004 08:31									#8
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Errr, knowing where to find the answer is just as good. Besides, I had read the article and thread before... but I've slept since then, Kucinich.

	21-07-2004 08:40									#9
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Sleep is for wussies.

	21-07-2004 08:54									#10
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Pfffffft, the beer tells me it's a very good and necessary thing. Am I the only one that gets the feeling between you, me and Diss this is an OT thread that just happens to be on topic... sort of?

	21-07-2004 08:58									#11
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Uh, yes.

Back OT...

Interesting point is that Republic doesn't face nearly the same penalties as Democracy, because it can't be thrown into Anarchy.

	21-07-2004 22:56									#12
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Not only that, but democracy jumps right to 50% unhappy at level 1. Couple that with unit support and republic has far outstripped demo as my favorite government. It's almost perfect.

	21-07-2004 23:19									#13
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Of course, if you don't go to war in the first place, everything's fine

	22-07-2004 04:36									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi Pfffffft, the beer tells me it's a very good and necessary thing. Am I the only one that gets the feeling between you, me and Diss this is an OT thread that just happens to be on topic... sort of?

well it became that way after the third post it looks like.

	22-07-2004 04:39									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi Not only that, but democracy jumps right to 50% unhappy at level 1. Couple that with unit support and republic has far outstripped demo as my favorite government. It's almost perfect.

bah! democracy blows away republic.

can you get the research rates with republic that you can with democracy? I think not.

Lately I've been building police stations. I didn't realize they helped with corruption as well- though not much it seems. Do police stations work if you have the universal suffrage wonder? I build them anyways. I usually have the production to do it at this point. As I have already built factories in all my major cities.

Of course last, game I build police stations in all my cities. But I never went to war the entire game.

Who says civ3 can't be a builder game?

	22-07-2004 05:57									#16
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Actually, I can get the same research rate in republic, for the most part. Every once in a while, I'll have a 5 or 6 turn tech, mainly the first tier in the industrial, before my labs are up and running, but once my infrastructure has caught up to the era, so to speak, I'm usually researching at 4 turns and raking in plenty of cash, to boot. The unit support cancels out a good chunk of the corruption loss, and even more in some cases.

Police stations are wonderful for corruption and, yes, they still help WW effects even if you build US. Police stations keep the first 25% of your population happy that would otherwise go unhappy due to WW. US placates one citizen in each city.

quote: Who says civ3 can't be a builder game?

Bah. Build to conquer.

	22-07-2004 05:58									#17
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war

	22-07-2004 05:58									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Of course, if you don't go to war in the first place, everything's fine

Yeah, but what's the point?

	22-07-2004 06:00									#19
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I dunno. Spaceship victory, I guess, and UN.

	22-07-2004 06:20									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker I dunno. Spaceship victory, I guess, and UN.

Meh.

	22-07-2004 06:26									#21
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My thoughts exactly.

	27-07-2004 06:30									#22
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UN? Spaceship?

	27-07-2004 22:35									#23
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democracy is a good war government- you build up such a lead, any war should be fast, brutal and one sided. quick enough to end quickly- and of course, if things do end up draggin on, raise the luxuries and you will still have an OK research rate so you don;t fall behind, and plenty of money to rush things.

	28-07-2004 18:20									#24
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When at war, does disbanding units count towards WW? The new animation got me worried...

	28-07-2004 20:01									#25
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I don't think so, since WW is enemy-specific, meaning it distinguishes who killed your unit.

	28-07-2004 21:31									#26
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quote: Originally posted by GePap democracy is a good war government- you build up such a lead, any war should be fast, brutal and one sided. quick enough to end quickly- and of course, if things do end up draggin on, raise the luxuries and you will still have an OK research rate so you don;t fall behind, and plenty of money to rush things.

Republic is better - no way Demo is eight turns of anarchy better than Republic.

	01-08-2004 15:54									#27
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quote: Originally posted by GePap democracy is a good war government- you build up such a lead, any war should be fast, brutal and one sided. quick enough to end quickly- and of course, if things do end up draggin on, raise the luxuries and you will still have an OK research rate so you don;t fall behind, and plenty of money to rush things.

If you'd stayed in Rep, you could've attacked 20 turns earlier, had a more exciting war, and have the enemy dead and forgotten 'fore you'd be ready to attack in Demo.