18-08-2004 01:10									#61
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 You know what Ill send this map to FortyJ, tell him what we are trying to do, and find out if he thin ks its OK.

I am not sure but I think thats against the rules, to just send a map before we have navigation.

	18-08-2004 02:35									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX I am not sure but I think thats against the rules, to just send a map before we have navigation.

He is the game admin, asking him first should violate the intent of the rules. At least not IMHO

	18-08-2004 04:59									#63
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Doesn't hurt to ask.

	18-08-2004 11:50									#64
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Nice map, Uber! Again, I think that if I were PAL, I'd think twice about this proposal. It would seem to me that the police is taping off my front door there...

	18-08-2004 19:02									#65
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I think we start with this proposal.

If we cant send the map then we send keystroke directions for the line and our ballpark on the tile distribution.

Ill get this to FortyJ today. (The map that is.) The more I thought about this the more I believe it wont fly. PAL told us a while back they have not explored our core. I think that maybe a show stopper and Im going to be honest with FortyJ about it.

	18-08-2004 21:51									#66
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 I think we start with this proposal.

Bingo.

This map is considered "fair" to me. Considering PAL is helping us mop up CDG, and gifting us the cities, I see no problem in moving the line a few tiles down. All we have to do is bring this proposal to them FIRST, as our INITIAL OFFER, and hopefully psychology will take over.

[bullshit from a psych student]
I am hoping to play of a common heuristic of the human mind, the "weighting and anchoring heuristic". Basically, the human mind always thinks in relative terms, light is never really "bright", it's just "brighter" than "normal light", etc. In negotiations, the initial offer is the most important, since it can be considered the "anchor". The price will fluctuate from the anchor as negotiations continue, but the mere act of setting the anchor higher than you really want it to be will usually be enough to make the other person "talk down" the price to a level that you actually wanted from the beginning.
[/bullshit from a psych student]

	18-08-2004 22:29									#67
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[bullshit from a construction management guy]

Ask for the moon and settle on a little closer to earth. It happens ALL the time

[/bullshit from a construction management guy]

	18-08-2004 22:41									#68
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That's not bullshit, it's a very good point.

	28-09-2004 23:59									#69
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Bumping to the top for discussion since we need to get PAL the "This is what we want letter". See the PAL FA thread.

	29-09-2004 03:29									#70
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Uber's line is a VERY good proposal, IMO, and I think we should combine this information with the numbers that WIA recently wrote up and make our pitch.

My bottom line is that I want a line somewhere in the bottle neck, even if it is just slightly south of Uber's line.

Conmcb25, can you take up the torch and argue this issue for us with PAL? It needs to be addressed now, before they start settling even more cities.

--Togas