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However, the alignment of the pyramids do not coincide with Orions belt, as many would have you believe. The alignment is off, the spacing is wrong, even when compensating for stellar drift over the past 4,500 years what you're left with is a mere approximation. As a matter of fact, the closest match between the pyramids and Orion's belt occurred in 10,500 BCE (appx. 8,000 years before the pyramids were built) - and even then, it's nowhere close to "matching" mathematically.


The Great Pyramid and the Sphinx WERE built in 10500 BC.


No they weren't. They were built in 2,500 BCE.

You're just trolling me, aren't you?

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No, but it would erase anyone to notice.


Following from the original hypothesis (that a nuke war occurred in the Indian subcontinent at some unspecified time ago... oops, also the Sahara...) we're around to notice.

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Most Egyptologists place the date of the Sphinx's origin at 2,500 BCE. There is weathering evidence that is consistent with water erosion, but that's all the physical and historical evidence that the Sphinx might have been built much earlier.

Regardless, even taking it as fact that the Sphinx was built at 10,500 BCE, there is nothing to suggest that aliens were involved in the construction of the object.

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I read also that the warring nations had air and spacecraft.


Where are they? Given that objects in space last for far longer than objects on Earth, where are they?

Desertification is a byproduct of bad agricultural processes, not mining processes. Mines tend to be in areas where the farming isn't all that good... like mountains.

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/

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Ancient Egyptian gods each got a constellation to them, like Osiris is Orion. The shafts in pyramid are properly orientated towards those, mind you. The interesting point is Texts of Pyramid, that describe a way to get from one place to another... on sky on Earth....

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Again, you don't address the issue. Let me ask again: If the pyramids/sphinx were built according to astronomic orientations, why does that necessarily presuppose alien construction?

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Please tell me you are just regurjitating this, and don't believe it


I'm a tad skeptical, but the article cited ancient Hindu drawings of aircraft. Hell, if Da Vinci could imagine them way before his time, surely a whole culture (more willing to accept) could build them?

And I don't believe in aliens building the pyramids. We doubt the ancient civilisations too much.

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Solver, you have been reading too much Hancock and Bauval.

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I'm a tad skeptical, but the article cited ancient Hindu drawings of aircraft. Hell, if Da Vinci could imagine them way before his time, surely a whole culture (more willing to accept) could build them?


DiVinci was able to imagine them but not build them. Why can't the same be true for others?

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John, not neccessarily. I have said that I am not 100% certain of alien influence in Egypt. There is some speculation, based on odd bits of information here and there that gods come from the sky, that Orion is where aliens are supposed to be from, etc. That's the interesting theory, mind you, implying not only that aliens have something to do with Egyptians, but that they are actually also the Biblical God. If I wasn't lazy, I'd write up something about that, but fact is, I am .

For a really serious discussion, I can debate very strongly and for long about moden ufology, so you can challenge me on that. Or if I ever stop being too lazy to write a summary of that alien-ancient theory.... hmm!

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But I can just see the religionistas now... they'd be trying to get the aliens to convert and pray to jesus...




Christ died for us all.

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If the Hindus made drawings of aircraft, and it can be successfully proven that they have never seen nor heard of birds before, then there might be something there.

But, alas, birds exist. So much for the ancient atomic-warring, plane-flying Hindis.

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Relax, they're vulnerable to water. Just keep a super-soaker and/or a Louisville Slugger handy.

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Who's vulnerable to water? The Hindis or the birds?

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The Aliens who have trouble with doors, silly.

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But... how'd they build the pyramids?

Wait! There are no doors in the pyramids! And it's built in the middle of the desert! (well, if you ignore the existence of the Nile and all that flooding).

Maybe Shyamalan was right all along....

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But... how'd they build the pyramids?

Wait! There are no doors in the pyramids! And it's built in the middle of the desert! (well, if you ignore the existence of the Nile and all that flooding).

Maybe Shyamalan was right all along....


Unless of course...the Aliens are really Reverse Vampires!


Seriously, aliens aren't visiting didn't build the Pyramids, or fight the Indians.

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You guys are beautiful, I you all.

Solver, what's a "hall of thoth"?

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"Seriously, aliens aren't visiting didn't build the Pyramids, or fight the Indians."

WoW, the aliens fought the Indians? I didn't know that!

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Solver.

Hancock and Bauval constructed their wacky scheme based on some fanciful notions. For example, they asserted that the chute in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza would point to Orion in 10500 BCE, hence, it must be built that year.

There are a couple of problems with that. First of all, the chute is actually blocked and does not open to the outside. Secondly, do chutes in the King's Chamber in all (or most) pyramids point to Orion when they were built? If not, they're just talking hogwash.

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If you didn't realise, the "aircraft" drawings were in fact flying saucers that used centrifrugal force to generate counter-gravity, thats what I understand from one the article.

Bear in mind these are reproduced drawings from the original texts.



So uh, here's a link, but its not all of it, but that's all I have time for, now.

http://www.audarya-fellowship.com/s...collapsed/5/o/1

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...a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendour...
a perpendicular explosion
with its billowing smoke clouds...
...the cloud of smoke
rising after its first explosion
formed into expanding round circles
like the opening of giant parasols...

..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
...The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognisable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.

After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...

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flying saucers that used centrifrugal force to generate counter-gravity

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Amazing how those Hindus uncovered the secrets of not only flying, but of 12-point font.

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flying saucers that used centrifrugal force to generate counter-gravity





Be nice

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Amazing how those Hindus uncovered the secrets of not only flying, but of 12-point font.


And English, too.

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They're reproductions, mind you.

And then labelled?

Its like translating stuff from Chinese to Pinyin.

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Not exactly hard evidence. The Bible had tales of flying machines but nobody credits the Israeli's for actually having them.

 
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