31-07-2004 09:04									#1
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SciFi's favorite line, but perhaps there's some truth to it. Public panic may be the government's bugaboo...

Perhaps if we started panicing now they would divulge all as it wouldn't matter anymore?

Anyway, do you think disclosure of aliens visiting earth would cause panic?

	31-07-2004 09:07									#2
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No.

	31-07-2004 09:23									#3
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Nope. Certainly a media frenzy though.

	31-07-2004 09:26									#4
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Oerdin, are you back in Iraq yet? Have to send you some stuff if so...

	31-07-2004 11:11									#5
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[BUSH JAB]
If the Bush Administration can work the USAmerican people into a panic about Saddam Hussein's remote-control flying monkeys of death, I think we can manage wide-spread panic over this.
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	31-07-2004 11:22									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Anyway, do you think disclosure of aliens visiting earth would cause panic?

Dunno, but I am still waiting for the report Colin Powell promised in 2001 that links Osama bin Laden to the 9/11 attacks.

	31-07-2004 14:30									#7
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Visiting Earth? Yes, definitely.

	31-07-2004 14:33									#8
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Depends on what they were doing, I figure. If they started bombing family farms, I figure it would be more likely to cause mass panic than if they just wanted to buy some dresses as Gucci.

	31-07-2004 15:32									#9
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	31-07-2004 18:53									#10
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If the US chose to reveal the aliens visit earth, it would cause some social unstability in several ways, definitely.

First, you'd get all those hysterical people who'd go like ahhh, they will kill us/use us for their own good, we're all dead, blah blah. There are enough people in whom such hysteria would be easily provoked by public disclosure.
Second, it would be a huge problem for religious people. Christians, for instance, see humans as a unique creation, God's choice, etc. Knowledge of aliens would cause huge problems for many religious people and organizations.

Those two would be the main points. For many people though it would actually be good. I believe that the US now has to disclose its files on aliens. I can understand during the cold war, when the main concern was that USSR would learn anything about aliens or get to any of their technology.

Currently, though, the politics are just cowards. See, disclosure about aliens would be equal to saying "yeah well we've lied to you for 50 years, aliens are here actually". I think that people would trust the government significantly less if it admitted to concealing information about something it keeps saying doesn't exist.

	31-07-2004 19:10									#11
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Your avatar sorta contradicts what you are saying...

	31-07-2004 19:20									#12
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quote: See, disclosure about aliens would be equal to saying "yeah well we've lied to you for 50 years, aliens are here actually".

Evidence of alien visitation today doesn't make up for lack of evidence about alien visitation 50 years ago.

	31-07-2004 20:40									#13
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"Evidence of alien visitation today doesn't make up for lack of evidence about alien visitation 50 years ago."

Somewhere there's an airforce hanger with the sign, 'Place Evidence of Alien Visitation Here' on the door.

Hey, what about all those sightings? Abductees?

JohnT, did you ever see the videos from Nasa? One was of a bolt of energy shot at a passing UFO which changed direction. The other was when the shuttle released alot of light and lit up numerous ship looking things. The light release was some sort of screw up, don't recall the nature of it.

Proof? No, but hey...

	31-07-2004 21:46									#14
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It's funny that widespread "sightings" of UFO's only started in the late 1940's.

What were all the aliens doing before? Were they upstairs with the wife for the past 2,000 years?

I would say that 95% of all sightings are false. And 5% are make-believe.

	31-07-2004 21:48									#15
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Winston and I agree on something.

	31-07-2004 21:49									#16
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Who said aliens have to be intelligent or higher forms of life?

	31-07-2004 22:26									#17
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Who said that we'll be able to recognize other forms of life's intelligence?

	31-07-2004 22:37									#18
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Well, if it's building space ships and landing on Earth then it should be easy to recognize.

	31-07-2004 22:38									#19
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I just assumed that a disclosure wouldn't be like "we learnt aliens exist yesterday", but a full one.

Well, at least I can have a laugh at those who refuse to believe in aliens. It's very rare to read anything by a good skeptic, because there are very few good skeptics, unfortunately - ones that can really raise valid counter-points and make their case.

Lancer, you just casually reading up on aliens, or is it more serious?

	31-07-2004 22:45									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Well, if it's building space ships and landing on Earth then it should be easy to recognize.

Touché.

	31-07-2004 23:40									#21
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Winston:

some say that Ezekial's Wheel was a description of a ufo...

	31-07-2004 23:42									#22
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I say UFOs are angels.

	01-08-2004 00:19									#23
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quote: some say that Ezekial's Wheel was a description of a ufo...

It's very probable.

	01-08-2004 00:27									#24
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Some say the Pyramids in Egypt were built by aliens. Others say aliens have already established underground societies here on Earth. I'm sure you could even find some who say the Pope is an alien.

And Last Conformist could be on to something...

	01-08-2004 00:29									#25
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Well, I susbscribe under the pyramid sentence. Actually, it's just that only one pyramid was built by aliens, and then probably not aliens themselves but using some alien technology, and built *because* of aliens. Sometimes people do indeed go too far in stating that, uh, the entire Egyptian civilization was built by aliens or something. That's a bit too much.

But aliens had a defining role in the early humankind history.

	01-08-2004 00:37									#26
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I think it's extremely unlikely that aliens had anything to do with the contruction of the Great Pyramid.

	01-08-2004 00:40									#27
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I think it's unlikely they didn't. Unlikely that aliens physically built it, too. However, I believe that at least some Egyptian gods, like Osiris, Thoth or Horus were real persons - aliens.

Though unfortunately I can't speak about alien influence in ancient times as much as about modern ufology. For serious debates, I stick to the modern times, but for theorizing, I touch upon the ancient times too. It's just that of ancient times I am not 100% certain - highly convinced, but not 100% just yet.

	01-08-2004 00:52									#28
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Hell, if aliens were going to land on earth, I'd panic.

	01-08-2004 01:19									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer SciFi's favorite line, but perhaps there's some truth to it. Public panic may be the government's bugaboo... Perhaps if we started panicing now they would divulge all as it wouldn't matter anymore? Anyway, do you think disclosure of aliens visiting earth would cause panic?

only idiots would panic. "oh no, we were wrong all along. There is no god"

its people that dont prepare for the impossible that lose their heads

	01-08-2004 01:29									#30
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quote: I think it's unlikely they didn't. Unlikely that aliens physically built it, too. However, I believe that at least some Egyptian gods, like Osiris, Thoth or Horus were real persons - aliens.

Even if you believe that the Great Pyramid was built by aliens or 'alien technology', I see no reason to make the logical leap that some members of the Egyptian pantheon were in fact aliens.

Since any and all traces of this technology have vanished completely from the historical record, I see no reason why this shouldn't apply the aliens themselves.