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dannubis is offline dannubis
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why denying them the right to be married? are you denied the right to do anything because your narrowminded view on society?

i know... perhaps we should force homo sexuals to wear a stigma on their forehead so they'd be easily recognisable

alva is offline alva
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Hum, you don't think recognising (some ) gays is easy enough as it is?!
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How about your sinful behaviour?

What sinfull behaviour...? Loving one another?

Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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No-one is denying them the right to get married.

Elok is offline Elok
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Like I said before, the idea of civil marriage at all is itself problematic IMO. In the wake of that SCOTUS ruling a year or two back striking down anti-sodomy laws, this kind of thing is just making it more clear how absurd and self-contradictory government-sponsored sexuality is, or has become. Marriage lost whatever "sanctity" it had when it got endorsed by the intern-bangers in Congress. So meh.

With that said, it's not like they're forcing gays to wear yellow patches with rainbow flags on them or anything. They're just banning gay marriage in Missouri, where I imagine, based on the landslide victory it got, it wasn't safe to be openly gay in the first place. I don't see how this is significant.

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No-one is denying them the right to get married.


Oh jesus christ I'm sick of you f***tards dragging out this argument thinking it makes you so clever.

No **** they aren't being denied the right to get married, but they are getting denied the right to marry the person that they love.

I doubt that you would think it was fair if you were in love with somebody and the state told you "Hey now, you can't marry them, but don't worry! Look at all these other people you can marry! See, we're not denying you any rights!"

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Well now. Next time, tell us what you really feel.

Gibsie is offline Gibsie
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I doubt that you would think it was fair if you were in love with somebody and the state told you "Hey now, you can't marry them, but don't worry! Look at all these other people you can marry! See, we're not denying you any rights!"


I'm sure PA has been told many times he cannot marry a farmyard animal or family member that he wuvs very much.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Actually, I'm pretty sure his rejections are coming fast and furious from women.

Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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"No **** they aren't being denied the right to get married, but they are getting denied the right to marry the person that they love."

Unfortunately, love is not an absolute necessity for marriage.

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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With PA's attitude, I'm sure he wouldn't mind heterosexual marriage being banned and gay marriage legalized - I mean, hey, he can just marry another guy!

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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I mean, hey, he can just marry another guy!


Theoretically, perhaps, but I bet he'd probably encounter the same amount of rejection, if not more.

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I would back recognising "homosexual partnerships" if they were enshrined as part of a cohabiting person's piece of legislation.

Once you allow homosexual all kinds of special rights, what about those two sisters who have lived together for thirty years, or the three flat sharers who have shared for a decade? Or polygamists?

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Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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No, it's an ethical argument.

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I would back recognising "homosexual partnerships" if they were enshrined as part of a cohabiting person's piece of legislation.

Once you allow homosexual all kinds of special rights, what about those two sisters who have lived together for thirty years, or the three flat sharers who have shared for a decade? Or polygamists?


In fact, to guard against this, we should get rid of heterosexual marriages, too!

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Missouri isn't in the Bible Belt.


Oh yes it is.

Lawrence of Arabia is offline Lawrence of Arabia
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this is why democracy blows.

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this is why democracy blows.


Yeah, dictators wouldn't even allow gays

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Oh yes it is.


Two points

1. Branson

2. the 75% of the state that pronounces it "Missourah"

'nuff said

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You're right, the logical conclusion of your thinking IS quite funny!

alva is offline alva
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what about those two sisters who have lived together for thirty years,

Why not, none of my business. I honestly see no reason why this shouldn't be allowed.
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or the three flat sharers who have shared for a decade? Or polygamists?

Why not, none of my business.I honestly see no reason why this shouldn't be allowed.

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What about a cult of 2000 who all wish to marry each other then?

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What about a cult of 2000 who all wish to marry each other then?

At the risk of starting to repeat myself...

Why not, none of my business.I honestly see no reason why this shouldn't be allowed.

Kontiki is offline Kontiki
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Why doesn't every brother and sister, or cousins of the opposite sex, or every pair of co-ed room mates, or every co-ed dorm get married now?

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Why doesn't every brother and sister, or cousins of the opposite sex, or every pair of co-ed room mates, or every co-ed dorm get married now?

..and why not? No on the kiddies of course.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Why doesn't every brother and sister, or cousins of the opposite sex, or every pair of co-ed room mates, or every co-ed dorm get married now?


Because it's currently illegal and they don't all want to? Is there a point to the question?

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Yeah, dictators wouldn't even allow gays



a libertarian dictator would.

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"No **** they aren't being denied the right to get married, but they are getting denied the right to marry the person that they love."

Unfortunately, love is not an absolute necessity for marriage.



Man you are being very cold-hearted as well as making retarded statements like this that oversimplify things.



Yes, peope do get married for all the wrong reasons when they do not love one another.

But in my opinion, a good marriage that involves a happy couple in the long-term has to be based on love.




next . . . . . .

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All is not lost!

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local...0Sex%20Marriage

A Seattle judge ruled against Washington's DOMA and that case is going to the state supreme court.

 
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