05-08-2004 00:06									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia a libertarian dictator would.

For the first twenty minutes. Then she'd realize she's a dictator.

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God I hope someone passes a law in PA's place of residence that only allows people to marry black people... PA you'd love that I bet.... after all the state wouldn't be denying marriage rights....

	05-08-2004 01:36									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Because it's currently illegal and they don't all want to? Is there a point to the question?

It's the same question PA is asking - I'm just throwing it in his face.

	05-08-2004 02:16									#64
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quote: You thought the Democrats were just one, monolithic group, didn't you?

Ixnay seems to think so...

	05-08-2004 02:18									#65
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quote: Once again, hatred, bigotry and spiteful ignorance rises up in the so-called "Christian" state of the Bible belt when they are behaving in everyway a true Christian should NOT behave.

Democrats are so-called Christians?

Go say it to their face, Mr. Fun.



I think they have just as much right to call themselves Christian, as you do.

	05-08-2004 02:19									#66
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quote: For the first twenty minutes. Then she'd realize she's a dictator.

good thing humans are inherently good and this wouldnt happen because there are still some who have principles.

	05-08-2004 02:20									#67
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quote: Because it's currently illegal and they don't all want to?

Gay marriage is currently illegal in most states. Does it make it right for them to ban gay marriage?

	05-08-2004 02:25									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Ixnay seems to think so...

	05-08-2004 02:31									#69
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quote: Sadly, there are stupid people in every political group.

Seems you expected the bill to pass, with the democrats all agreed on this issue, and those to whom you disagree are 'stupid'.

If this is not what you believe, then I will apologise for assuming so.

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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia good thing humans are inherently good and this wouldnt happen because there are still some who have principles.

The "good" humans with "principles" have this habit of liking to encourage those same "principles" in others. I believe Badnarik's claim that he wouldn't outlaw abortion about as much as I believe that the universe has a creator.

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omfg way 2 go missouri!!!!!111111

wouldn't it be funny if mo's economy tanked? you know, something along the lines of spain's going down the tubes after it expelled all the sepharim...

	05-08-2004 03:11									#72
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quote: The "good" humans with "principles" have this habit of liking to encourage those same "principles" in others. I believe Badnarik's claim that he wouldn't outlaw abortion about as much as I believe that the universe has a creator.

except badnarik has never misled you so theres no reason why you shouldnt believe him.

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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Democrats are so-called Christians? Go say it to their face, Mr. Fun. I think they have just as much right to call themselves Christian, as you do.

Liberalism and Christianity are not anti-thetical to one another. Neither, in my opinion, is being affirmatively gay (as in not repenting) not anti-thetical to Christianity.

	05-08-2004 03:47									#74
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So ummm Park Avenue, Ben Kenobi (respectively) what are your actual arguments against gay marriage and for this amendment (again respectively) so that we can actually have a proper conversation?

	05-08-2004 06:51									#75
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Oh yes it is.

Such a scathing rebuttal. How will I ever go on!

	05-08-2004 06:59									#76
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You could try and give sarcasm a go?

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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Gay marriage is currently illegal in most states. Does it make it right for them to ban gay marriage?

Erm, you missed the entire point of that little conversation, dear. Par for the course...

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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy So ummm Park Avenue, Ben Kenobi (respectively) what are your actual arguments against gay marriage and for this amendment (again respectively) so that we can actually have a proper conversation?

Do you really want to again?

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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Seems you expected the bill to pass, with the democrats all agreed on this issue, and those to whom you disagree are 'stupid'. If this is not what you believe, then I will apologise for assuming so.

No, he was saying that there exist, within every group, stupid people, and thus the bill was passed with a large portion of Democratic support. So what he said was the very antithesis of claiming the Democrats were a monolithic group.

	05-08-2004 07:19									#80
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The only good news from this election is that with the defeat of the incompetent incumbant governor in the primary, Kerry is much more likely to carry the state.

that and my two relatives won their respective primaries

	05-08-2004 10:54									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Do you really want to again?

We have to give some people some slack for naivity.

	05-08-2004 11:09									#82
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Another Triumph of Democracy...

quote: Yeah, dictators wouldn't even allow gays

In a democracy, you just get more dictators.

To quote The Patriot, "why should I trade 1 tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants 1 mile away?"



But the irony gets even richer, most homosexuals apparently are Democrats.

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quote: Originally posted by alva You could try and give sarcasm a go?

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quote: I think they have just as much right to call themselves Christian, as you do.

And others have the right to call them phony, so the question becomes: are they living up to the teachings of their God? We've gone through that already and the anwser is a resounding NO! So who is right? The "Christian" who continually violates the principles of Christianity or the person who sees these violations? Remember, even Jesus said there will be many who come to him on judgement day saying, "Lord, Lord, look at what we have done in your name"... And Jesus will say, "I never knew you"...

Jesus is condemning "Christians", the wolves in sheep's clothing...

	05-08-2004 11:23									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Another Triumph of Democracy... In a democracy, you just get more dictators. To quote The Patriot, "why should I trade 1 tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants 1 mile away?" But the irony gets even richer, most homosexuals apparently are Democrats.

Actually, I thought it was a royalist who was governor of New Jersey, who said, "They call me a brainless Tory. But tell me which is better -- to be ruled by one tyrant about 3,000 miles away, or to be ruled by 3,000 tyrants about a mile away?"

forgot his name

	05-08-2004 11:25									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov No, he was saying that there exist, within every group, stupid people, and thus the bill was passed with a large portion of Democratic support. So what he said was the very antithesis of claiming the Democrats were a monolithic group.

Exactly.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Do you really want to again?

Me?

Marriage is between a man and a woman.

Now you homophiles need to state what rules you would have governing who can and who can't get married. Is it for only two people? Or as many as you want, etc?

	05-08-2004 17:38									#88
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No rules other than age of consent and even then there can be exceptions, i.e., a minor with parent's permission.
Don't matter to me who or how many you marry, it's called freedom of association. If you find 3 women who want to marry you and the feeling is mutual, good for you and them... It's your life, you decide for yourself...

	05-08-2004 17:51									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue Me? Marriage is between a man and a woman. Now you homophiles need to state what rules you would have governing who can and who can't get married. Is it for only two people? Or as many as you want, etc?

Why is this complicated for you? Why can't marriage have the same rules as now, except that you allow gays to marry each other? Is it really that hard to grasp?

	05-08-2004 17:57									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia except badnarik has never misled you so theres no reason why you shouldnt believe him.

Badnarik is a human. It follows I should be deeply suspect of his motives.