04-08-2004 08:59									#1
	Missouri anti-gay marriage const. amendment headed for victory Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrweb/statew...lts.asp?eid=116

Scroll down to the bottom. With 58% of the precincts reporting the amendment is passing 72% to 28 %

I can only hope that the same thing doesn't happen in November with the anti-gay marriage amendment those f***ers have managed to get on the ballot here in Montana.

	04-08-2004 09:03									#2
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It's my home state

Odd how the dems outnumbered the repugs greatly in many of the primaries, yet that passed


OTOH, it appears that my distant cousin won the primary for Sec State (on that page it appears as she was unopposed, which I didn't think was the case, whatever)

	04-08-2004 09:11									#3
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Looks like the Dems don't agree on this issue.

	04-08-2004 09:11									#4
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Damned Christians.

	04-08-2004 09:22									#5
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Sadly, there are stupid people in every political group.

	04-08-2004 09:38									#6
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay Sadly, there are stupid people in every political group.

It just so happens that the overwhelming majority of people voting against equal rights as good-meaning Christian bigots.

	04-08-2004 09:39									#7
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ixnay, you should put on the ballot an inniative to remove the "casinos" from your state

	04-08-2004 13:24									#9
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Looks like we found our wedge issue. This gets people out to the polls so expect to hear more about it during the year.

	04-08-2004 19:27									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Looks like the Dems don't agree on this issue.

You thought the Democrats were just one, monolithic group, didn't you?

	04-08-2004 19:28									#12
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Once again, hatred, bigotry and spiteful ignorance rises up in the so-called "Christian" state of the Bible belt when they are behaving in everyway a true Christian should NOT behave.

	04-08-2004 19:29									#13
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Missouri isn't in the Bible Belt.

	04-08-2004 19:30									#14
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Looks like we found our wedge issue. This gets people out to the polls so expect to hear more about it during the year.

Proud of your party, are we?

	04-08-2004 19:31									#15
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Missouri isn't in the Bible Belt.

I thought southern Missouri is considered by some people to be part of the Bible Belt.

	04-08-2004 19:32									#16
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Woohoo...!!! Another victory for the fundamentalists..

* sigh *

	04-08-2004 19:33									#17
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Looks like we found our wedge issue. This gets people out to the polls so expect to hear more about it during the year.

I'm sure there were plenty of white racists/white supremacists were just gleeful that they found desegregation and equal suffrage to be good wedge issues during the 1950s and 60s.



Some things never change -- there will always be politicians to appeal to bigotry and ignorance to create a "wedge issue."

	04-08-2004 19:35									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Proud of your party, are we?

Whatever works. I'm not one to judge if it gets results. It is in line with what Kerry wants though. States deciding the issue for themselves and all.

	04-08-2004 19:36									#19
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Bigotry and ignorance?

How about your sinful behaviour?

	04-08-2004 19:37									#20
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Yes, historically, states rights has often been used as a means for bigoted discrimination.

	04-08-2004 19:38									#21
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I wouldn't complain Fun. It's also the reason Mass. can allow gay marriage in the face of opposition from the rest of the country.

	04-08-2004 19:41									#22
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Whatever works. I'm not one to judge if it gets results.

Not surprising coming from someone in a state that was a hotbed of segregationist politics. Hey, if it works to get the results you wants, the means are okay, right?

I never thought you'd be the ends-justifies-the-means type, DD.

quote: It is in line with what Kerry wants though. States deciding the issue for themselves and all.

Strawman alert. Nobody mentioned Kerry yet, and this doesn't have anything to do with him.

	04-08-2004 19:43									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Strawman alert.

I thought I'd throw that in there to see if it got a response.

	04-08-2004 19:46									#25
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OK you are all busy arguing either side on this..but what is the likely ending of this gay marriage debate? Civil war?

	04-08-2004 19:49									#26
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The full faith and credit clause likely voiding of amendments passed in states like Missouri and then being ignored by the federal government because it already served its purpose.

	04-08-2004 19:50									#27
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A civil war?



I take it you're just joking with that question.

	04-08-2004 19:51									#28
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Well when you don't get your way, I hope you will accept it.

	04-08-2004 20:01									#29
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For now, it's mostly just talk when I say this, but if someday, bigotry wins over through an anti-gay federal law that is even stronger than DoMA, then I would have to at least seriously consider changing citizenship to a country where I have first-class citizenship like everyone else, rather than second-class citizenship in United States.

And since I don't want to be too far from family and friends, Canada might be the best option for that.

	04-08-2004 20:18									#30
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Bigotry