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Yes and no, but children are still children. A twelve year-old boy, no matter how much he wants to bang his teacher, is in no way emotionally prepared to deal with it.


I'm not saying it's right. The teacher should have went to jail, and she did.

It is statutatory rape. But she did not rape him against his will.

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Age 3

No joke


proof?

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Yeah, because he'll brag about it to his friends.

If I think back to that age, I would have died with happiness if an attractive teacher had wanted to do it with me. Boys of that age are like Ted Striker.


I was not ready at 12. And I never "got off" until I was like 16. I was a late bloomer. I was still a kid at 12. I thought of naked girls- yes. but not actually doing them.

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Who among you is without sin?

I can think of a couple of teachers that every guy in my school would have given his right leg to screw.

There is a huge difference between fantasy and reallty, the number 1 female fantasy is being raped, not so in real life.

I too got my fair share of boners in school, and yes, I too tried to look under their skirt, 'dropping' my pencil etc.., but I'm not sure, if I would have like it if the teacher ever were to really come on to me.

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Legality and morality are two different things.

OK. So what's wrong with doing dogs, exactly?

We assume it's done in a way that would be conformant to Swedish law, that's to say, the dog does not suffer fear, pain, or injury.

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dogs?

It's **** like this how AIDS came about. Some dumbass screwed a monkey and then later screwed a prostitute.

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Yeah, because he'll brag about it to his friends.

If I think back to that age,


The fact that you wanted to doesn't mean you were in anyway capable of handling it emotionally. Wanting something and being able to handle it are two diffrent things.

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It's **** like this how AIDS came about. Some dumbass screwed a monkey and then later screwed a prostitute.


Most likely it was eating infected bushmeat.

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The fact that you wanted to doesn't mean you were in anyway capable of handling it emotionally. Wanting something and being able to handle it are two diffrent things.


He didn't just "handle it" like a normal twelve-year-old, he had sex with her. That's the whole problem.

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Most likely it was eating infected bushmeat.

I wasn't aware you could contract HIV by eating infected material?

OTOH, you can contract it if you get infected blood in an open sore of yours, so I guess preparing infected bushmeat might have done the trick.

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I admit, i'm interested in this story.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/040805/11/q7mh.html

Although this article doesn't state the judge gave him access to her again. I thought I heard somewhere the judge did allow them to contact each other.

While 12 would have been too young for me, maybe this kid was an early bloomer.

This kid's life is already ****ed up, it couldn't get any worse with them meeting and resuming their relationship could it?

But he has no job. Who knows if she could get a job.

But I admit, for some reason I'm pulling for them. Maybe their get married and stay married 60 years.

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I don't get the whole job issue. Why is that an issue?

Lot's of people are having tough times finding work these days even if they aren't recent high school graduates hot for teacher.

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Who among you is without sin?

I can think of a couple of teachers that every guy in my school would have given his right leg to screw.


Thats right and every student is entitled to their fantasy.

But its the teacher that is supposed to know better.Its a simple rule.

You don't boink your students. Period.

Even with adults in the workplace-- you don't boink people that you supervise. Courts don't see this power imbalance as rape but it sure as heck qualifies as sex harrassment that gets your ass fired.


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As for this case, I have mixed feelings about them getting together now. While I feel the jail time to this point was warranted, they are adults now. If 7.5 years has not cooled his ardour for her ( and I presume he has had chances for sex with others), there are two rationales I can see. One is that this is truly love. The second is that this early experience has so damaged and ****ed up the young boy that he was incapable of normal emotional development. I don't know which it is and am torm between trying to protect the boy that he should have been versus his right as an adult to see her if he wishes

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Oh and crazyhorse

while she is a "child molester", she probably is not a pedophile if the boy was physically mature. If her attraction to him as a young adult now continues, it might be that her attraction was not to children as a group but was to this one individual

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See what happens when conservative courts try to impose subjective orders upon its populace, and unhappiness arises.

Do away with the whole "age of consent"; from the moment one is self-aware, you should immediately receive most of the human rights, voting, sex, whatnot, but maybe with parental consent a bit higher.

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The fact that you wanted to doesn't mean you were in anyway capable of handling it emotionally.


I've never understood that complaint. Teenage boys do not have emotions like that; for most of them, they just want to do it and then do it again. There are a lot of things teenage boys can't handle emotionally, IMHO mindless sex isn't one of them.

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See what happens when conservative courts try to impose subjective orders upon its populace, and unhappiness arises.

Do away with the whole "age of consent"; from the moment one is self-aware, you should immediately receive most of the human rights, voting, sex, whatnot, but maybe with parental consent a bit higher.


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I've never understood that complaint. Teenage boys do not have emotions like that; for most of them, they just want to do it and then do it again. There are a lot of things teenage boys can't handle emotionally, IMHO mindless sex isn't one of them.


It depends on the circumstances. If the boy is the one being assertive and aggressive, then there is no problem whatsoever. But if a teacher coerces a boy into doing something he's unsure he should be doing, that is wrong.

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It depends on the circumstances. If the boy is the one being assertive and aggressive, then there is no problem whatsoever. But if a teacher coerces a boy into doing something he's unsure he should be doing, that is wrong.


Sure, but for the majority of teenage horndogs any sex with an attractive woman is cause for excruciating happiness.

 
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