09-08-2004 01:37									#91
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I guess so.

Glad to see someone who espouses the virtues of free press and independent thinkers can also keep an open mind.

	09-08-2004 04:39									#92
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quote: Al-Jazeera also reported the closing. Jihad Ballout, the network's spokesman, told CNN in an interview from Qatar: "I don't think that Al-Jazeera ever incites violence."

I wonder if they chose that guy intentionally.

	09-08-2004 05:27									#93
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I didn't notice till now. Good one.

	09-08-2004 05:29									#94
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Foxnews should be banned there next.

	09-08-2004 05:30									#95
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Australian owned and operated.

	09-08-2004 05:31									#96
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You forgot the New England Irishman, Ted.

	09-08-2004 05:33									#97
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True

	09-08-2004 05:35									#98
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Irishmen

German Jew

German Jew Tejano who went to Texas A&M

	09-08-2004 05:45									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Australian owned and operated.

The unseen hand in world affairs

	09-08-2004 05:48									#101
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Like ZOG, but with Fosters.

	09-08-2004 05:50									#102
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I find it interesting Iraq reinstituted the death penalty.

	09-08-2004 05:59									#103
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It's a backward Third world country - what do you expect?

	09-08-2004 06:03									#104
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The U.S. is a not a backward third world country and we have the death penalty

	09-08-2004 06:57									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident we have the death penalty

It's a backward Third world country - what do you expect?

(walked right into that one)

	09-08-2004 07:00									#107
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We can't all be blessed to live in a penal colony.

	09-08-2004 07:12									#108
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That's true - we don't hold it against you.

	09-08-2004 07:23									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse It's a backward Third world country - what do you expect? (walked right into that one)

haha! joke's on you. Because the U.S. is the most advanced country in the world with the most amenities.

	09-08-2004 07:56									#110
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whilst retaining remarkably backward third world attitudes to crime and punishment

	09-08-2004 07:59									#111
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your country is backwards because you have no idea what real crime is.

Do murders even happen in your country. Foreigners tremble when they come to our shores. Our cities are warzones. Most cities have at least 1 murder a night.Thousands of robberies. The crime is staggering. Something Europeans and Australians cannot fathom.

	09-08-2004 08:00									#112
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I don't tremble and I'm living in a worse city than you ever will.

The crime rate is stupendous though.

	09-08-2004 08:03									#113
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It's funny when I was in the navy and they would tell us not to travel alone in foreign countries. Like they had any bad neighborhoods . I didn't see any. Even Naples, Italy wasn't bad (the old lifers say they cleaned it up quite a bit though- but that's just referring to getting rid of the prostitutes)

	09-08-2004 08:09									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident your country is backwards because you have no idea what real crime is. Do murders even happen in your country. Foreigners tremble when they come to our shores. Our cities are warzones. Most cities have at least 1 murder a night.Thousands of robberies. The crime is staggering. Something Europeans and Australians cannot fathom.

We were a penal colony remember? You have nothing to teach us about crime and punishment.

	09-08-2004 10:13									#115
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 So much for freedom of press. But then again no surprise there. Coincidently the iraqi media network (or whatssits name) is completely american controled. SO no freedom of press whatsoever. I concede that in this regard the US has managed to export its model

IMN is owned and controlled by the Iraqi Government so yes it does get its views out. There are still atleast two domestic news networks which are not government controlled and nearly a dozen from other Arab states. To my knowledge only Al Jazeera and Maqtada Sadr's news outlets have been banned and in both cases it was for inciting violence against the government or the Iraqi people.

Compared to just about every other Arab country Iraq has the least amount of government control of the media. Try to start an independent news outlet in Syria or Libya and see what I mean.

	09-08-2004 10:20									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker He said he knows people personally that have died because of those idiots.

I wrote about it several months ago in my blog which I keep here at poly.

	09-08-2004 10:38									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin IMN is owned and controlled by the Iraqi Government so yes it does get its views out. There are still atleast two domestic news networks which are not government controlled and nearly a dozen from other Arab states. To my knowledge only Al Jazeera and Maqtada Sadr's news outlets have been banned and in both cases it was for inciting violence against the government or the Iraqi people. Compared to just about every other Arab country Iraq has the least amount of government control of the media. Try to start an independent news outlet in Syria or Libya and see what I mean.

	10-08-2004 14:36									#118
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quote: They work with the insurgents; the insurgents tell Al Jazeera where and when the attacks will take place and Al Jazeera gets to cover the event first.

Embedded reporters.

	10-08-2004 15:06									#119
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BTW if you follow the link in my sig to the first part of my Iraq blog you will find a post which deals extensively with which TV and news outlets are readily available here in Iraq.

	11-08-2004 02:07									#120
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Didnt the Allawi govt just UNBAN the Sadr paper??? if theyre cracking down on free speech, why would they have done that?