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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york
Recently, in the English Rugby League... |
That's the "game" with all the good bits of Rugby taken out.
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Cruddy
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I'm not talking about watching it - I'm talking about playing it.
League rules are like, "Don't him him! You might hurt him!"
Union rules are more like "Kick the living sh1t out of him, and anyone else (so long as you are onside)."
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Maquiladora
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quote: BTW: Zidane has just announced he has retired from international football. |
No big deal to me. I remember when he was at Juventus, passing the ball if he was ever in danger of being under even slight pressure and dropping Davids in the **** every time. He does one flick (that a non-leaguer could do) and the commentators go insane. We wouldnt have him here, far too lazy for English football. No doubt all the pundits will drone on about him too, what a great loss to international football etc.
Scoring the penalty versus us after being sick seconds earlier is the only world class thing ive seen him do.
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johncmcleod
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Coeur d'Alene, ID, USA
Jan 2002 time: 21:34
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When I said I left out American teams, I was referring to teams from all of the Americas. No MLS teams would make the top 25, but I think Boca Juniors and River Plate might have a shot at it.
As for my ranking of the leagues, most people think the Spanish league is the best. I think it is way overrated. I mean the year before last, champions league had 3 out of its four last teams Italian. And the remaining Spanish team didn't advance past that. I look at Valencia, who got about as many points as Arsenal did, and most of their players are unknowns, whereas Arsenal is filled with well known internationals. As for Portugal, there is no way the Portugese league is better than the Dutch league, much less the French league. Porto had a great run, but that doesn't mean the league is better than a middleweight class league. I think the Belgian league is almost as good as the Portugese league.
MLS has improved very rapidly. The level of play is getting much better each year. And the league just started, don't be so critical. The premiership wasn't a great league in its first decade. One thing that makes the MLS underrated is the MLS has a salary cap, therefore there is parity among the teams. The top team isn't that much worse than the worst team. So a foreigner might watch the two best MLS teams play and think that the league isn't any good. Another thing that people must understand when they watch MLS is that there is a stupid playoff system where almost all of the MLS teams advance. This gives little incentive for most teams to go out and try hard, because they know they will go to the playoffs. So most regular season MLS games have two teams that aren't really trying. If you watch the championship, I predict you will be pleasantly surprised about the how good the teams are.
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TheArsenal
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Sunny Southern California
Mar 2002 time: 21:34
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV
I have never seen a MLS game but the key comparison with the Premiership is consistency. There are probably a lot of sides who would show up well against a top Premiership team in a single game. Could a MLS team maintain that level over the course of a season with 50+ competitive games? |
No, not against top sides over the course of a season. And I do watch a great deal of the MLS.
But not many teams anywhere in football can keep up with the unrelenting grind that is the English game. Not even the teams that compete in it. Accordingly, the Premier League has become two leagues of late, Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United, the big rich clubs and the only contenders for the title. Then there are your second tier teams competing for Champion League spots, usually Liverpool, Newcastle, and a rotating cast of a few more teams. But last year for example, there was a huge point difference on the table between 3 and 4, IIRC.
The top MLS teams could compete in the Premiership, but only with those teams outside of the top 5. And that is not certain.
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