17-08-2004 02:19									#31
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Best sequels:

The Settlers II
Lemmings II
Syndicate Wars

	17-08-2004 08:17									#32
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Sooo... why are you shaking your head?

C3 is a much better sequel

	17-08-2004 08:18									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I think they are one and the same.

Not necessarily.

You could have the original be crap and then the sequel be a great game, but not the best game of all time, wherease the best game of all time could only be a moderate improvement upon its predecessor.

	17-08-2004 08:21									#34
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Indeed Kuciwalker... for example Civ2 can be seen on one measure as the best sequal, but not on the other measure (it wasn't that much of an improvement on Civ1).

	17-08-2004 08:31									#35
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Except C2 isn't the best game ever

	17-08-2004 09:51									#36
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Yes, GTA3 is, but Civ2 is 2nd .

	17-08-2004 09:57									#37
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Clearly you were dropped on your head as a child.

	17-08-2004 10:02									#38
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Well, that doesn't say good things about you then, seeing how lacking you are in intelligence compared to me .

Hell, your poor addled mind thinks Civ3 was good!

	17-08-2004 11:01									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Hell, your poor addled mind thinks Civ3 was good!

* Arnelos decides to let the anti-Civ3 Neanderthal live with his delusions if he wants to...

	17-08-2004 14:10									#40
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Sorry bud, Civ 3 does suck.

	17-08-2004 16:40									#41
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Age of Empires II is one of the best sequals, and games I can think of right now.

Also, there is Caesar II that I have played like a total devotee. That game ruled every other management game out there.

	17-08-2004 19:49									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Hell, your poor addled mind thinks Civ3 was good!

If by "addled" you mean "super-intelligent", then yes, you are correct!

	17-08-2004 19:50									#43
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Sorry bud, Civ 3 does suck.

Clearly you have not played the true wonder that is C3.

	17-08-2004 20:29									#44
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The Sound s was AWESOME (at that Time) ;=)


I beg to differ on XCom though.
The Second one was pretty bad. (IMO)

	17-08-2004 21:31									#45
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Pretty bad? It's abyssmal. It's worthless. It's a steaming pile of bovine excrement.

	17-08-2004 21:36									#46
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Don't hold back, UR. Tell us how you really feel.

	17-08-2004 21:39									#47
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He was actually talking about Civ3

	17-08-2004 21:40									#48
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Terror From the Deep wasn't that bad. The first was better in every way, and TFTD was even more buggier than the first, but it was still a pretty good game.


Being less than the best game isn't the same as being the worst game.

	17-08-2004 21:40									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui He was actually talking about Civ3

I could agree witht hat, though.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui He was actually talking about Civ3

Then I guess he was dropped on his head a few times too

	17-08-2004 21:41									#51
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woo, three posts all in the same minute.

	17-08-2004 21:41									#52
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In one thread, or by you?

(wait, you aren't PLUS)

	17-08-2004 21:42									#53
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Taking a superb game, painting it a different colour, adding bugs so that some games couldn't even be played to completion and then calling it a sequel...

Oh wait, someone already mentioned Civ 3.

	17-08-2004 21:46									#54
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Terror From the Deep wasn't that bad. The first was better in every way, and TFTD was even more buggier than the first, but it was still a pretty good game. Being less than the best game isn't the same as being the worst game.

I guess if you played it first, it wouldn't be that bad.

But it's highway robbery, I am telling you. MicroProse put out this evil, mind-rotting, stress-inducing, computer-destroying piece of binary monstrosity masquerading as a sequel to gyp us off.

Rotten thieving scoundrels!

	17-08-2004 21:48									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Oh wait, someone already mentioned Civ 3.

Civ 2 isn't so great.

It'd would be great if you played it first. However, as a sequel, it's only mediocre.

	17-08-2004 21:53									#56
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That part was just a joke.

	17-08-2004 22:58									#57
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Terror From the Deep wasn't that bad. The first was better in every way, and TFTD was even more buggier than the first, but it was still a pretty good game. Being less than the best game isn't the same as being the worst game.

Quite.

	18-08-2004 10:56									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns That part was just a joke.

Bozo

As a standalone game, Civ 2 is very good. Great even. As a sequel, it's only mediocre. They missed the chance of completely revamping the population model and a few other things.

	18-08-2004 17:06									#59
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quote: As a standalone game, Civ 2 is very good. Great even. As a sequel, it's only mediocre. They missed the chance of completely revamping the population model and a few other things.

Exactly. As standalone, any Civ game is great because it is, after all, Civ. But Civ2 did miss some things it could do, added the horrible isometric view, so it doesn't IMO compete for a best ever sequel.

	18-08-2004 17:21									#60
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Well some are clearly viewing the thread as best game that happens to be a sequel, not sequel that added the most.

What if the first game was crap? Then the sequel could be much better, and qualify under Solver's or UR's definition, even if it wasn't as good overall as a sequel to a great game, like Civ2.

More structure needed.