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Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
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So, just to complete the survey.

What is the best sequel you have ever played? (Reviews you read don't count)

For me, it's Star Control 2.

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For me, it's Star Control 2.


You have my wholehearted support in that assessment.

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Is this just "best game that happens to be a sequel", or "sequel that most improved upon the original", or what?

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X-Com, the first three were great. Space one not that good.

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SMAC obviously (it's actually the sequel to civ, not civ 2)

Other notables include Spinter Cell: PT, Wolfenstein: ET, and Rallisport Challenge 2.

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Grand Theft Auto III & GTA: VC

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Biggest improvement: Unreal Tournament

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Probably not what you had in mind, Zero... I guess it's the best expansion I ever played - Brood War.

Best sequel for a console... mmm Final Fantasy 2 (American) really blew away Final Fantasy for me. Final Fantasy 3 (American, is it the one with Locke, Terra, Mog, etc?) were even better. After that.... I wasn't too happy.

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You have my wholehearted support in that assessment.


Ditto.

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X-Com, the first three were great. Space one not that good.


I hate to be this harsh, but how many times were you dropped on the head as a child?

Original X-Com: Goes down in gaming history as an awesome game; prolongued contact could probably save you from a range of nasty diseases as well as helping to save your immortal soul.

Various X-Com sequels: Absolute filth; liable to give you the black death by mere contact.

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FreeSpace 2. The original was very good, but the sequel was better in every way, which says something.

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Frontier: Elite 2.

Too bad there weren't any Thargoids in it

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I agree with Arnelos. XCom sequels got steadily worse as they went along. Apocalypse was passable, albeit unfinished, but the rest were either regurgitated and buggy or just... I'll stop here to prevent myself from destroying my keyboard.

I'll also agree with my previous statement. GTA 3 and Vice City both improved on the already great GTA1, adding significant improvements - not the least of which were different view-points.

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Sooo... why are you shaking your head?

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Is this just "best game that happens to be a sequel", or "sequel that most improved upon the original", or what?


I think they are one and the same.

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Master of Orion 2, not really because of the changes from the previous, just by virtue of being a great game and also a sequel.

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Baldur's Gate 2, by actually managing to be even better than BG1.

You can't beat that for a great sequel to a great game

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Sensible World of Soccer.

Took an already wonderful game, and just made it even better. And if you chose to start your career in the lower divisions then they added a challenge to the game too, which had perhaps been lacking from the earlier games (if you'd played them as often as I had ).

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Lemmings: Tribes and Gabriel Knight 2 are two that spring immediately to mind as great sequels.

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Wow, I remember playing that for endless days with my brother. We'd play a whole league season. I was always better at managing the team, and he was better at contolling the game, so it was always a close thing at the end of the season. It was fun to play in the Icelandic second division and so on

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Heroes Of Might and Magic II is really good.
Civ2 does it even better

but the winner is.....



Curse Of Monkey Island!!!!!

Managed to take the funniest game I've ever played (The Secret Of Monkey Island) and do it even better. If I hadn't played it, I wouldn't have thought it possible.

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You, sir, have no taste. Curse is by far the weakest of the four Monkey Island games.

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Age of Empires 2. Took AoE, that was already a great change to RTS, added great new feautures while staying faithful to original, great all-around .

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Age of Empires 2. Took AoE, that was already a great change to RTS, added great new feautures while staying faithful to original, great all-around .



See, this is why we need some real qualifier. Age of Empire 2 is a good sequel when it's compared to it's predeccesor, but when when you compaire it to games that are actually good you can't call it a "best" of anything.

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Dominions II !

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See, this is why we need some real qualifier. Age of Empire 2 is a good sequel when it's compared to it's predeccesor, but when when you compaire it to games that are actually good you can't call it a "best" of anything.


Well, I guess I can. AoE1 (and, by extension, AoE2) are some of the best games I've played. There are games I like more (like Civ), but I think that Civ2 wasn't as much an improvement over Civ1 as AoE2 over AoE1, for instance.

 
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