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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:34
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DanS, Well, I just think that's another thing like Ned mentioned integrity. I think that once you're a war hero, that fact will never change. You might become a bastard afterwards, sure, but you'd still be a war hero anyway. But if we'd say that's an issue of his integrity, I could agree with that, if the points were good and facts represented were also good, and since they might have already been represented, and good points made, I have no energy to read them through and in fact because I'm not a part of KErry campagn machine, I don't care so much for his integrity debate, he might fail in that or not, I just wanted to say that I think that once someone is a war hero, that it doesn't change.
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Joseph
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Ca. USA
Feb 2000
time: 21:34
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quote:
Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
35 years later, with precision as to the dimensions of the fragment? Or maybe you treated some chickenshit radioman 2, then later heard later about Kerry and VVAW, then got together with your buddies and talked about that ******* who "betrayed" you all, then you remembered that chickenshit you treated, except now it's become Kerry. Psych studies have documented that sort of memory process for several decades now. It's how human memory works.
Oh, and since when do "training missions" qualify one for the PH? Oh yeah, I forget, Kerry is supposedly the only O2 in history to recommend himself for decorations and then endorse and approve those recommendations. Or his CO must have been so negligent as to not even know that Kerry was on a training mission. Or they were just being nice, because they knew this was a chickenshit officer they wanted to be rid off ASAP, so chickenshit that they assigned two boats to him, rather than put him in some administrative billet or simply transferring him.
So what you get is different stories, decades after the fact, about what they "think" caused the wound, combined with an extremely low probability event for the wound to be caused that way.
People can question Kerry all they want, this just doesn't amount to much of anything.
It depends on the magnitude of the events and the time. When did Kerry make his "seared into my memory" statement? When did the medic make his? Was the identity and nature of wounds of Kerry so significant in this medic's memory as the position of Kerry's boat in his?
Maybe they're both telling the truth, maybe they're both lying, maybe they both believe they're telling the truth but recall (edit - in)accurately. But the presumption and the claim here (by the SB vets and their supporters) is that they have a universal monopoly on the truth, and Kerry is lying pretty much across the board, and anyone who agrees with Kerry is either lying for political reasons or has been persuaded by Kerry to remember things his way.
Why doesn't he just switch the entire campaign to praising George W. Bush and answering any allegations the SB vets make? Why don't the SB vets come up with something more substantial than their collective memories and excuses for why others who were there dispute their versions? |
MTG have you ever done something with someone that at time was no big deal. But later that someone becomes someone and you said, Hey I remember him because we did this together 10, 15, 20 years ago. Our mind does work that way sometimes.
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23-08-2004 22:52
But then again I didn't say whose country's conservative I was.. if I said I was conservative as in American style, I'd rank somewhere between Nazi and hooligan in here. Lot of commies in here 
They hate our country 
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