29-08-2004 06:32									#31
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quote: Originally posted by quantum_mechani I know it must be really obvious, but where can I get the "Progress of Truth"?

in Vivec . There are multiple locations. The easiest one is in the rare book store in the foreign quarter (middle level I believe). This is where I got mine. This is the same area where you talked to the one operative in relation to the quest for Caius.

	29-08-2004 06:35									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos True, true, by mid/late game all characters have near maxed out stats and abilities so your starting stats and abilities, race, class, whatever become somewhat meaningless. I meant the comment more from a roleplaying standpoint. It should be noted that a number of the guilds' quest lines are mutually incompatable with one another. I know the Fighters Guild and Thieves Guild are (along with a few others). It's also true that joining some factions can make joining others highly difficult, though I don't think impossible (Cult and Temple, for instance). You also can't join more than one of the three native houses unless you use an exploit that opens up with the series of quests to make you Hortator. Of course, concerning opposed factions; having maxed out Personality and Speechcraft breaks many of the RP elements of the game.

I'm not where near maxed out stats!

Though I finally did max out long blade. I sometimes use a short blade (this really cool dagger I found that sells for 10000). But I suck with it. It's a minor skill, and it doesn't go up real fast

My personality still sucks. Most of my other attributes are are around 50 or 60.

I'm level 16 now I believe. What level do I have to be to finish the game?

I'm pretty tough. Though there are times I encounter tough battles. There was this shrine up near. Khuul.

I didn't die, but the one guy who appears when you pick up the emerald sitting on a table was pretty tough.

	29-08-2004 06:36									#33
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Right now I'm trying to get to the Urshilaku camp. Any advice on how to get there?

I actually did get to the oustkirts by sea. I swam from Khuul . But I had blight disease and no way to cure it, so i used a divine intervention to get back to a temple. So now I have to go back

	29-08-2004 10:37									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos It should be noted that a number of the guilds' quest lines are mutually incompatable with one another. I know the Fighters Guild and Thieves Guild are (along with a few others).

Actually, no. The Fighters Guild and Thieves Guild quests are not mutually exclusive. Well, if they are someone forget to mention it to my game as I am the leader of both guilds.

	29-08-2004 11:33									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Actually, no. The Fighters Guild and Thieves Guild quests are not mutually exclusive. Well, if they are someone forget to mention it to my game as I am the leader of both guilds.

They are compatable up to a certain point. IIRC, there's a point at which the Fighters Guild wants you to kill a Thieves' Guild leader... an action that would get you booted out of the Thieves' Guild. IIRC, the Thieves Guild also has a quest that will get you booted out of the Fighters' Guild.

There may be a way to use some cheesy exploit to get around it (entirely possible), but I remember from reading walkthroughs that the INTENTION was for you to have to choose between them.

	29-08-2004 13:51									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos They are compatable up to a certain point. IIRC, there's a point at which the Fighters Guild wants you to kill a Thieves' Guild leader... an action that would get you booted out of the Thieves' Guild. IIRC, the Thieves Guild also has a quest that will get you booted out of the Fighters' Guild. There may be a way to use some cheesy exploit to get around it (entirely possible), but I remember from reading walkthroughs that the INTENTION was for you to have to choose between them.

There nothing cheesy about it. Played the right way the Fighters and the Thieves are very compatible.

If you pay attention to your Fighters Guild quest givers you will notice there are actually two factions in the Fighters guild. One, there is Percy in Ald Ruhn (the old guild master) and Hrundi in Wolverine Hall and two: Eydis in Balmora and the orc and Sjoring in Vivec. The second group wants to join forces with the Camonna Tong.

Talking to Percy about your Balmora and Vives quests you will learn he has often second thoughts about their quest, up to the point where you get the kill-the-thieves-guildmaster quest when he actually says you shouldn't do it. Percy's own last quest is to kill Sjoring Hard Heart which is actually the very same quest as your last Thieves quest.

The only possible problem you'll encounter before that is Eydis Fire Eyes code book quest.

If you steal to code book (which contains important camonna tong info btw.) before joining the Thieves you wont be able to join them ever again (dissidents position I suppose). The trick is to simply avoid this quest until you get a thieves quest to bring eydis over to the other side. At that point Eydis will drop the code book thing and you'll be able to complete her remaining quests.

	29-08-2004 17:33									#37
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Ah, you're right. My memory on it was fuzzy because it's been a long time since I played the game or read the walkthroughs and my own experience includes the Thieves' Guild quests, but not the Fighters' Guid quests.

	29-08-2004 19:01									#38
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quote: Right now I'm trying to get to the Urshilaku camp. Any advice on how to get there?

	30-08-2004 04:31									#39
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yeah I know where it is on the map .

I ended up walking from Maar Gan. I had to cross a copule of mountain ranges, but I got there.

I'm not in those crypts or whatever that they tell me to get some bow. Some areas are hard to get to.

I still don't have levitate. Anyone know where I can find that spell?

and does anyone know how you can read books and things that are already in your inventory? Maybe one of these days I should reread the instruction manual . I can't remember some things. I read the keyboard commands in-game, but that doesn't seem to help me.

And is there an easier way to use items in your inventory?

	30-08-2004 04:50									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I still don't have levitate. Anyone know where I can find that spell?

The easiest way to have tons of free levitation is to play through the Imperial Cult quests (or, alternatively, just loot the same dungeon they send you on a quest into). The quest rewards you by finding boots of levitation down in its depths. I recall that I fought a whole lot of Daedhra (sp?) getting there and met an avatar of the Imperial goddess or healing (forget her name) or whatever (IIRC).

Tough quest, but the boots of levitation are definately worth the trouble.

	30-08-2004 05:21									#41
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speaking of.

I got the boots of blinding speed. I heard they were really cool.

the main problem is putting them on makes me blind . It's hard to navigate that way.

	30-08-2004 05:49									#42
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Use the small map in the bottom right corner.

	30-08-2004 05:51									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I'm not in those crypts or whatever that they tell me to get some bow. Some areas are hard to get to.

when you're in that crypt and into light armor look for some glass items, the most expensive glass armor is found for free in main quest crypts/caves.

quote: Originally posted by Dissident I still don't have levitate. Anyone know where I can find that spell?

I think someone in the Balmora Mages Guild has one. If you don't have a good alteration skill let some spellmaker make a seven second levitate spell. You can get everywhere with that and you'll be able to cast it.

quote: Originally posted by Dissident and does anyone know how you can read books and things that are already in your inventory? Maybe one of these days I should reread the instruction manual . I can't remember some things. I read the keyboard commands in-game, but that doesn't seem to help me.

Drag the book onto your picture. Now that wasn't too hard, was it?

	30-08-2004 05:54									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos The easiest way to have tons of free levitation is to play through the Imperial Cult quests (or, alternatively, just loot the same dungeon they send you on a quest into). The quest rewards you by finding boots of levitation down in its depths. I recall that I fought a whole lot of Daedhra (sp?) getting there and met an avatar of the Imperial goddess or healing (forget her name) or whatever (IIRC). Tough quest, but the boots of levitation are definately worth the trouble.

They are called the Boots of the Apostle, and they're not only handy with levitating but also have the best armor rating for boots while being light armor.

There's indeed some resistance but nothing a typical level 16 character can't handle. Like all over Morrowind

	30-08-2004 05:58									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident speaking of. I got the boots of blinding speed. I heard they were really cool. the main problem is putting them on makes me blind . It's hard to navigate that way.

I think those boots are rubbish. If you're a Breton with 50% magica resistance maybe there're handy.

If you really want to walk quicker, get some constant effect restore fatigue enchantment, with that you can run all day and it isn't that hard to make.

(btw. doesn't anyone else think 'restore fatigue' sounds like an effect you wouldn't want to use? ' restore stamina' would be better I think? who wants their fatigue to be restored? )

	30-08-2004 08:53									#46
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Does anyone know what moon sugar is? (I think that's the name. when I talk to people and try to barter, they won't barter when I have that in my inventory). I have it on the ground now. I have no idea what it does.

And does anyone know where I can find a levitate spell? I tried mages guild balmora. pretty much where I do all my shopping. Is there a better place to find stuff?

Speaking of. I've heard of something called the creeper to buy and sell stuff? Where is this guy?

I've finished that quest for that bow. It sure was a pain getting back. I contracted all sorts of diseases. And I couldn't take a silt strider because people didn't like me when I was diseased. And then I got hit with something that sapped my strength. I was all out of cure blight disease potions. I had to burn a divine interevention scroll . Real pain in the ass these diseases are. And then I had to drop all my loot so I can go inside the temple. and then bribe the guy at the temple just so he's sell me some cure blight disease potions. and then I had to buy restore agility potions since my agility was down.

	30-08-2004 10:38									#47
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Moon sugar is an addictive (illegal) substance commonly used in the production of skooma. You won't be arrested for it but you won't be able to interact with many merchants while you're carrying it either.
Combine it with shalk resin (from the black beetle things) to make speed potions.

Regarding spells try some of the other guild bases via the transport system (IIRC the Ald Ruhn guild is pretty useful). Failing that, temples have many useful spells too.

Creeper is a scamp (daedra) that was put in the game as a sort of easter egg. He buys almost anything and pays full price to the limit of his funds.
You can find him on the second floor of Ghorak manor in Caldera. It's filled with orcs and located next to an armourer on the eastern side.

Restore attribute potions are usually a bit of a waste. The Imperial cult shrine in Pelagiad has all restore attribute spells IIRC.

	30-08-2004 13:40									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Does anyone know what moon sugar is? (I think that's the name. when I talk to people and try to barter, they won't barter when I have that in my inventory).

Sell the moon sugar and the skooma to the ***** merchants. They love them. And they'll accept to trade.

EDIT: ok, ok, seems some words are forbidden here. I meant the feline merchant

	30-08-2004 14:24									#49
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how would you define a feline merchant? a khajiit, or just kind of a wuss?

	30-08-2004 14:51									#50
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Yes, khajiit, That's the name.

	31-08-2004 05:39									#51
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hmm, interesting.

soon, it will be time for more morrowind. I don't know why I didn't really like this game before. It's a fun game. The dialogue/conversations and combat may not be as fun as other games. But I'm having fun just exploring this world. The quests aren't too bad- they are varied and intersting for the most part.

I'm thinking about getting the expansions now. Maybe I can find them packaged together. What all do the expansions add? I heard in one you can have a henchman. Although I hope they improve the pathfinding AI. It's kind of annoying when people follow me to a location for a quest. Sometimes they get in my way during combat. I accidently killed a couple - somehow I was clicking on the wrong target.

	31-08-2004 06:15									#52
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You can buy the Game of the Year Edition for 30 dollars at Best Buy, Diss. It includes the original Morrowind, as well as the Tribunal and Bloodmoon expansion packs. I believe Bloodmoon adds the Werewolf, and both exp. packs have new areas/land to explore, new main quests, mini quests, improvements, etc.

	31-08-2004 07:00									#53
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You can become a werewolf or a vampire. New quests and areas come with both expansions, as do more useful armour/weapons. Merchants have much more stuff to sell to you and they have more money too.

	31-08-2004 07:11									#54
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You can become a vampire in the vanilla Morrowind.

	01-09-2004 04:21									#55
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well I'm up to the part where I get Corpus disease. I finally find some gooo items that sell for a lot. Though that bad ass shield I'm using- not selling. It is heavy armour, and that is what I specialize in.

I still haven't had much luck finding levitate or water walking. I did find some sort of levitate in Ald ruhn, but it requires more mana than I have.

Is there any way to raise magicka other than raising intelligence? Raising most magical skills raise willpower or personality. I think there's only one that will give a bonus to raising intelligence.

And anyone know of any trainers to train security without having to be a member of the thieves guild? The one guy in Balmora would not do it since I was not a memeber of the thieves guild. So many cool doors and chests I cannot explore and loot. I can get low level stuff- say 30 and below, but that's about it.

	01-09-2004 04:59									#56
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You are looking for levitate spells, or levitate potions?

As far as raising your security skill goes....

What kind of character have you created? I have not been keeping up with this thread. if you have been leaning towards magic at all, I would just buy Unlock scrolls and create your own spells.

	01-09-2004 05:36									#57
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If you already have a levitate spell that requires too much magicka then see one of the spell making people.
ie Make up a spell that gives you a reasonable duration levitate but at an effect value of 1. You should be able to cast this. Higher effect values only make you move faster so you can get around the low effect value with the boots of speed.
Also note that the blinding effect is only applicable at the time you put the boots on - ie: if you cast a resist magicka spell, or use a potion or item with a similar effect, then put the boots on while under the resist effect, you'll still be able to see when the effect wears off as long as you leave the boots on.

IIRC both the enchant and alchemy skills are intelligence based. Further on down the road you can also enchant items with a constant-effect fortify intelligence to give you a larger magicka pool.

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An alternative to levitate for getting to the Urshilaku Camp is to waterwalk around the coast from Khuul. You can make the potions from kwama scuttles and violet coprinus.

	06-09-2004 04:08									#59
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actually I found a decent route over the mountains just east of Mar Gan. It doesn't take too long.

Still playing. I want to hurry and finish this game though and play as a thief. I usually don't like thief characters. But I am interested in playing one in this game.

I told myself I wouldn't do it, but I did it. I went to trainers and really maxed out my stats. I now have 100 strength, 100 speed, 100 agility, and 100 endurance. I also have 99 willpower now and my intelligence is also almost maxed out. My personality is only about 60 though, and my luck is still 40. I just couldn't resist maxing those stats out.

But even as tough as I think I am, I still face tough battles. Anyone ever fight that Umbra (I think that is the correct name) just outside of Suran (NE over the mountain)? He has a bad ass sword. But I couldn't get him without taking advantage of the crappy AI. Although this was before I maxed out my stats. But I was still pretty tough. My Amour Class is over 100 now, and I have nearly maxed out blocking, yet I still get hit so much . This guy hit so hard, I had little chance. Even when I summoned a skeletong guy. I hope thing don't get any tougher than that. I will never survive.

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Umbra was easy, but I was able to attack from a distance.