25-08-2004 06:42									#1
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I know we have another around here somewhere, but it hasn't been posted in ages I'd imagine. I'm not going to look for it

I'm getting back into this game. I've been trying to get into this game. I still have saves from early 2003 . I need to finish it. I was playing some last night, and trying to figure out which unfinished quests I have (I wish they seperated finished and unfinished quests ).

I have one quest for some family heirlooms for this lady outside of Caldera. It's supposed to be in some Den east of Caldera. I'm having trouble finding this Den. I did find some kind of crpyt with some tough enemies in it. I can kind of sorta kill them, but they hurt me bad. I think I'm level 6 so far btw.

Does anyone know where these family heirlooms are? Where is this Den?

And what's the best way to heal yourself? I have hearth heal, but I fail casting the spell most of the time. And then I run out of mana. How do I regenerate mana? And is there an easier way of taking healing potions? The only way I could figure out how to do it is click healing potions, bring the slider over to 1, and then move it on top of my paper doll. There has to be an easier way of doing this. Damn interface . Probably why I stopped playing before

This game is so huge I really don't know where to start. I'm currently doing fighters and mages guild quests. but I did go back to Caldera to try to finish this quest. I explored into the mountains to the east of Caldera. I crossed over to some wasteland area. I don't think it's going to be over the mountain range is it?

Also I seemed to have been diseased. I have 75% disease resistance (I think because of my sign). But somehow I managed to get diseased. How do I get rid of disease?

And finally. How do I make money? I'm poor. I want training and good weapons. I definately need weapons. In that crpyt I couldn't even hit that thing without a magic sword. Luickly I did have may iron sparksword or whatever.

Like I said, this game is so big, I almost don't know what to do. There are almost too many options.

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	25-08-2004 06:51									#2
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I'm not going to restart

I already restarted like 3 times because I didn't like my other characters. I originally had an archer. But they were a pain in the ass without any henchmen. I could only get a few arrows off before they closed into melee range.

then I tried a fighter/mage wearing medium armour. I heard medium armour sucks so I abandoned that one.

Now I'm mostly a fighter wearing heavy armour. But I do have destruciton as a major skill. And I think restoration as a lesser one. Long Blades are my primary skill as well.

I'm still fairly early in the game. I've read through my journal. And it seems like this Caldera quest and my current fighters and thieves guild quests are the only ones open. for fighters guild I have to travel to another city because I can no longer get any quests at Balmora. And for mages guild I have to find some people in other cities. I just wanted to finish this Caldera quest before I left the area.

	25-08-2004 06:56									#3
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They do separate quests, the finished ones have a different color, grey I think

	25-08-2004 06:56									#4
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Be an alchemist. Go to the mage's guild on the far east side of the island, Wolverine Hall I think. Right below it is the imperial shine. There is a guy there who sells the ingredients needed to make as many healing potions as you want because he has an unlimited supply. That allows you to actually make money with extra healing potions. There is free alchemy gear in the top of the Caldera Mages guild. Do this and all your problems are solved.

	25-08-2004 07:07									#5
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With the expansions, medium armour pwns.

If you can aquire a grand soul gem with a Golden Saint in it, you can make yourself a constant regen healing ring or such so you will never stay injured for long.

	25-08-2004 07:41									#6
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so nobody knows where that den is?

That's the only problem I have with 3D graphics. It can be hard to find stuff. I'm not going to look all over the place for this stupid thing. I just hate having unifinished quests though

	25-08-2004 10:38									#7
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Morrowind has a lot of bad/useless quests. And that is one of them.

	25-08-2004 20:00									#8
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i think east of caldera is that desert type terrain isnt it?(its been a while) - when those storms blow and it gets all red + dusty it becomes very hard to find some places, you just have to hope to a bit of luck that you'll stumble across them. the mission its self doesn't ring a bell.....bu there are so many its hard to tell

And i never had a problem with medium armour - i use nordic ring mail and i like it - it looks like real armour

	26-08-2004 04:47									#9
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Am I the only one I know that actually finished the original campaign? Would be nice to meet some others.

	26-08-2004 04:58									#10
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I will finish it- eventually and without cheating like Tass mentioned.

Though I would like to find a good detailed walkthough. I wouldn't use it extensivly, but only when I'm stuck.

The 2 walkthroughs at gamefaq's seem to only cover the major portions. It doesn't look like they include every quest.

	26-08-2004 05:17									#11
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I finished the original one, too .

Walkthroughs on the site called UESP are great (do a Google, I hope it's alive still).

Destruction as a major skill for fighter isn't good. You're going to fight with swords anyway, and are not focusing on intelligence, so that's not too useful. A decent intelligence though helps with Restoration skill.

Money is the easiest thing in this game once you get past the very beggining. You can easily make as much as you want. When playing the game, I was routinely walking around with a few hundred thousand with me, though making a million or two isn't any harder. You just kill Ordinators and sell their armor. I'm not sure exactly, but I think the full set costed over 30k. There are plenty of such easy ways to get money, you may actually want not to resort to it so you feel rich with 10k gold and so that money is an issue.

In my great castle that I have, I also got some 100k scattered around in treasure vaults. Me like that .

	26-08-2004 18:43									#12
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that site is still up. Thanks. Looks like a cool site. I'll try to use it sparingly. I just hate it when I get stuck on a quest

http://www.uesp.net/morrow/quest/mw...shtml#aetathief

turns out it is over the mountains and towards the north east- not east.

oh by the way. How do I cure disease?

I don't know why, but I'm really into this game. It's taking me over a year to finish. But I'm off to play right now I'll check back later. I'll look for a store to find some potions that cure disease I guess.

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	26-08-2004 18:57									#13
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A bit late methinks, but I think its Sushissihishisiisiiiii you're looking for.

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	26-08-2004 19:24									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident so nobody knows where that den is?

spoiler(highlight to read): The den is just on the other side of the mountain (east of that woman/Caldera, same latitude). Find a way to go over that mountain - levitate or acrobat - or go the long way around.

	26-08-2004 19:35									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident oh by the way. How do I cure disease?

Depends on the disease.
- for some, time will do
- for others, a potion of restore XXX is enough
- for others, cure disease potions, or a shrine
- for blight, you need a cure blight potion or a shrine
Shrines are to be found in some tombs or temple (in Balmora there's one).
Shrines are better, because they are usually cheaper and if you are not curable this way, or you chose the wrong option, you won't be charged.

BTW: If you have chosen the attronach as sign, shrines may also refill you with mana.

	26-08-2004 20:03									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident And finally. How do I make money? I'm poor.

Make potions and sell them. That's the easiest way.
I don't know if there is a minimum to start making potions, but if there is (15 should be enough), and you are too poor to train to that minimum, go for pearls.
Go to the water, find cullops and search for pearls.
Once you have enough money, train your alchemy, find equipment (Caldera mage guild) and start the bu$ine$$.
Make potions. Any. Even poison, they'll buy them all.

	26-08-2004 21:22									#17
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Yes, that's one way to make money, with potions. You can make enough to get some equipment. Another reason why I like mages - they don't really need to buy armor and weapons to get started.

At around level 8, you can kill your first ordinator. Well, depends on your race/abilities, too. And it's easy from there.

	27-08-2004 01:26									#18
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I played a custom class that focused on medium/heavy armor, long blade, shield, and then mostly spell casting beyond that... most particuarly restoration (for healing), mysticism (teleportation!!!), and related skills.

Since my character joined the Imperial Cult, he was basically something of a Breton Paladin.

As an aside note: I have to tell you that the teleportation spells available with mysticism are some of the best time-saving devices in the entire Morrowind campaign. Put ranks in Mysticism and learn those teleportation spells.

	27-08-2004 10:21									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us A bit late methinks, but I think its Sushissihishisiisiiiii you're looking for.

yeah that's it. I found it already though

far too much work for 300 gold. I just couldn't leave that quest unfinished though

	27-08-2004 10:27									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Yes, that's one way to make money, with potions. You can make enough to get some equipment. Another reason why I like mages - they don't really need to buy armor and weapons to get started. At around level 8, you can kill your first ordinator. Well, depends on your race/abilities, too. And it's easy from there.

I am finally in Vivec. A huge place. too huge for my tastes. I waste hours just walking around exploring. If I were to talk to every NPC, well this game would take years to finish.

Why would I want to kill an ordinator? They aren't hostile to me. Though they are unfriendly and have like a 15 attitude towards me. Wouldn't that cause problems with me and Vivec? I may need to return to the city.

I've been working on all these fighter and mage guild quests, and have been neglecting the main quest . Now I'm back on the main quest, and it is really easy. I'm level 11 now btw. Money isn't too much of a problem. I have pretty good equipment (I haven't found anyone so far that has better equipement than I already have). The main thing I need money for is training.

I'm catching up on main quests now. I'm the one now where I have to find those 3 people in Vivec with info on the 6th house thingy and that other thingy. It's really easy when you are level 11 . I'll catch up with these then resum mage guild quests. I stopped because my next mage guild quest is to a place very far north (probably unreachable by silt strider). so i want to get a little tougher first.

in most RPG's, I like to do every single quest possible. But I'm going to say **** that for this game. There is just too much to do!. I'll probably do mage and fighters guild, and the main quest. I"m not sure what else I'll do. I know there are other factions or groups you can join. I'm not interested in the thieves guild (though security is a minor skill of mine)

	27-08-2004 10:33									#21
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I did mess up a few things on my character I think. But I'm not restarting. I"m getting tired of doing the beginning quests over and over (I have done them 3 times)

He seems pretty tough. Yet... There was this one guy in the undersewers (or whatever they were called) in St. Claire (was that the name?) I could not defeat him. He attacks me for some reason. I'll have to get him later.

turns out I dont' have restoration as a major or minor. It is misc.

I have long blade, blocking, armorer, heavy armour, desturction and I think one more as a major skill.

I have things like axe, athletics, alteration, security, and a few others as minor skills.

I'm a redguard- custom class I believe. But I'm mostly a fighter with minor mage and theif abilities.


One thing I forgot how to do is spells? How do I get spells in my spellbook? I cannot remember. I still have things like fire bite and fireball, and hearth heal. I want more spells.

	27-08-2004 12:39									#22
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Spells you have to buy from someone who makes them. Most of the Mages guild halls will have somebody who sells them. Ditto for many of the temples and cult shrines.
Hearth heal is probably bad to start out with as it heals too many hp's worth at too high a cost with too low a chance for success.
Better to have somebody make you a spell that heals 5-20 HP or so with a much higher chance of success.

If you really need the money your best bet is to get a soul trap spell and then pay a visit to Tel Branora (on the SE coast of Vvardenfell - I think there's a ship from Vivec that takes you) to stock up on soul gems. There's a seller there with an infinite supply.
A normal soul gem costs 50-100 or so but sells for 4200 when you've captured a flame atronach (you're a redguard hence you're immune to their flame attack). Even a scamp is worth 4000.

	27-08-2004 15:25									#23
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You do not really need restoration. There is enough healing rings/robes.
Go to the main shop in Caldera - Verick Gemain's tavern. The guy has some interesting stuff for the low level adventurer.
- iron bow
- dragon scale cuirass (best early med. cuirass I found)
- imperial chain greaves (best early med. greaves I found)
- magical weapons (axe)
- misc magical objects (healing robe, iirc)

	28-08-2004 02:03									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident in most RPG's, I like to do every single quest possible. But I'm going to say **** that for this game. There is just too much to do!. I'll probably do mage and fighters guild, and the main quest. I"m not sure what else I'll do. I know there are other factions or groups you can join. I'm not interested in the thieves guild (though security is a minor skill of mine)

In Morrowind, I think the idea is that you play through the game multiple times (if you ever have the time!) playing as different TYPES of characters that access and play through different types of quests.

That said, the game world is absolutely enormous and the whole point is that each person playing it can pick and choose what to do among the many options and no-one can do everything.

	28-08-2004 08:36									#25
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In morrowind theres no such thing as different TYPES of characters. Sure you may start out differently but half way through the game the only thing different about it is how you look.

	28-08-2004 08:56									#26
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There are some things that have some effect, such as certain races not being able to wear shoes for instance. Of course, the effect of this is irrelevant once you hit midgame as no monsters can keep you injured for long and such.

	28-08-2004 14:40									#27
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True, true, by mid/late game all characters have near maxed out stats and abilities so your starting stats and abilities, race, class, whatever become somewhat meaningless.

I meant the comment more from a roleplaying standpoint. It should be noted that a number of the guilds' quest lines are mutually incompatable with one another. I know the Fighters Guild and Thieves Guild are (along with a few others). It's also true that joining some factions can make joining others highly difficult, though I don't think impossible (Cult and Temple, for instance). You also can't join more than one of the three native houses unless you use an exploit that opens up with the series of quests to make you Hortator. Of course, concerning opposed factions; having maxed out Personality and Speechcraft breaks many of the RP elements of the game.

	28-08-2004 19:33									#28
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That's why plugins are GREAT for Morrowind. Normally, indeed, at around level 15 you're powerful, and at level 20 no monster can provide a challenge. While plugins solve this and many other problems. One of my favorite plugins makes creatures stronger as you level up. So, even at level 50, there are creatures that can be serious.

	29-08-2004 01:58									#29
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I know it must be really obvious, but where can I get the "Progress of Truth"?

	29-08-2004 06:30									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos In Morrowind, I think the idea is that you play through the game multiple times (if you ever have the time!) playing as different TYPES of characters that access and play through different types of quests. That said, the game world is absolutely enormous and the whole point is that each person playing it can pick and choose what to do among the many options and no-one can do everything.

yep, I've already given up hope of doing every single possible quest (I can't do thieves guild, they won't let me join for some reason).

I'll probably do fighters and mages build, and the main campaign. I"ve done a few other quests here and there (mostly people I find waiting along side the road).

I haven't talked to hardly anyone in the towns and cities. There's just too many people to talk to!. I have fun exploring the countryside (I'm an avid hiker in real life- sometimes I feel like I'm actually hiking )