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Perhaps this is not the appropriate place to post so if a mod doesn't think it belongs here, I suppose he can move it to OT. But since it's about gaming I figured this would be a good place.

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Video game gals take it off for Playboy
Silicon will meet silicone in October issue of men's magazine

August 25, 2004: 10:05 AM EDT
Game Over is a weekly column by Chris Morris

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) – She's a statuesque redhead with green eyes who stands 5'7". Her measurements are 36-22-36 and she's posing topless for the October issue of Playboy magazine.

Oh, just one thing... she's a video game character.

Her name's Bloodrayne and she'll make her naked debut alongside a feature in the upcoming issue of the men's magazine.

Joining her in the CGI photospread (which will accompany an article about the changing face of gaming) will be a handful of gaming characters. While not all the characters will appear in the pixilated buff, you can expect a lot of come hither looks from some butt-kicking women, including familiar faces from Midway's (MWY: Research, Estimates) "Mortal Kombat" franchise, Namco's "Tekken" series and Vivendi's (V: Research, Estimates) upcoming "Red Ninja" and "Leisure Suit Larry: Magna *** Laude". (See the accompanying pop-up gallery for some of the characters that were submitted to the magazine.)

"Majesco (MJSH.OB: Research, Estimates) thought it was all in good fun. The game's coming out that month and it's perfect timing," said Laura Heeb, a spokesperson for the "Bloodrayne" publisher. "BloodRayne is a very viable franchise now. It has definitely made the step up to a full-fledged video game franchise. The Playboy thing is nothing more than just another cool thing we can do with this franchise."

Playboy declined to comment on the pictorial feature, since the October issue won't hit stands for a couple of weeks.

Welcome to the weirdest stop yet on the gaming industry's 2004 Naked Olympics.

A quick recap, for those of you just tuning in: The games kicked off with Eidos' (EIDSY: Research, Estimates) May release of "Singles: Flirt Up Your Life". The game was a "Sims"-like clone that featured full frontal nudity and encouraged you to get your two characters to have sex. It earned a rare "Adults Only" rating from the Entertainment Software Ratings Board. Because most retailers will not sell an AO game, Eidos offered it via download only. (A toned down "M" rated version is due on store shelves later this year.)

Due up later this year is the slightly less raunchy "Playboy: The Mansion" and the aforementioned "Leisure Suit Larry: Magna *** Laude," which sticks closer to "Animal House" or "American Pie"-style hijinks.

It seemed, for a while, that these would be the only players – but the layout in Playboy magazine ups the skin level substantially.

Meanwhile, waiting in the wings is another game that's bound to raise a few eyebrows: "The Guy Game". Basically, what you're looking at here is the bastardized love child of "Girls Gone Wild," college drinking games and The Tonight Show's "Jaywalking" segments. Real (not digitally animated) nubile coeds on spring break are brought onto stage and asked various trivia questions. If they answered wrong, they flash their breasts at the crowd. If you play the game right, you can see that flashing uncensored.

It's not a game that's likely to make friends amongst parents groups or conservative religious organizations. But developer TopHeavy Studios (really!) and publisher Take Two Interactive don't seem too concerned.

The growing presence of video game nudity and sexuality – both in and out of games – is something of a double-edged sword for the industry. On the one hand, female characters appearing topless could reinforce the outdated stereotype of gamers as shut-in losers who lack any sort of social skills.

On the other, it underlines how much older the audience for these games has gotten in recent years. According to the Entertainment Software Association, today's average game player is 29 years old. And the average game buyer is 36.

Be that as it may, the industry has been trying to attract more women gamers – and including characters that have been positive (albeit overly buxom) role models in a Playboy layout could potentially turn away that customer base.

That's part of the reason some publishers opted against their characters appearing nude.

"We spent a lot of time thinking about it," said Namco spokesperson Kristin Calcagno. "We wanted to move forward with the coverage opportunity, but we wanted to ensure that the characters would be seen as they are in the game. We ensured they were in poses and attire that were sexy, but were appropriate to their character. ... By no means do we hope anyone finds it offensive."

So why take the chance? Basically, Playboy's demographic is very much in line with the sweet spot of the gaming industry. Eighty-five percent are male. The average age is 33. And half of its readers make $75,000 or more per year.

That's a lot of men with cash to burn. And that's a lot of potential cash those publishers could be pocketing.

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Morris, who (if his mother happens to read this) only buys Playboy for the articles, is Director of Content Development for CNN/Money.

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http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/25/com...dex.htm?cnn=yes

There were links in the article. Normally I'd take time to put those in here for you but don't have the time right now so if you want to see those links, pay a visit to the link provided above.

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And just like in real life, the ones doing a full disclosure are skanks, hasbeens or nonames. I kept asking myself "Who? What?" when reading the list.

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There was a game a few years back where you were a porn mogul, but I can't recall it's name.

There's also the classic Sam Fox Strip Poker.

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better selling games like this to adults than games with excessive violence to kids.

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DrSpike, you just made Deity? If so, congrats!

I recall there was a mod for Civ 2 or 3 in which you could get nude icons? Could be just my imagination although ha.

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Few months back actually.

Before it was devalued by all the spammers like Skanky and Jamski.

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This topic probably belongs here. But let's not turn it into something I have to delete.

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nice

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So, did Virtual valerie make the pick?

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pictures? what good is a thread without pictures?

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I am wary of games such as these. Games that sell due to sex probably haven't got the same level of gameplay that games selling due to their gameplay have. Gameplay takes a second, or worse, priority for these games.

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This topic probably belongs here. But let's not turn it into something I have to delete.


Spikie's posted in it twice. That's all the excuse you need.

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this isn't a game

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From the above, not by that Chris Morris it would seem

coeds on spring break


Can someone please explain to me exactly what this means. Not that I'm planning to adjust my spam filters, but I'm curious as to what this new internet buzz-word means.

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Coed = mixed sex (males and females)
on spring break = students = young

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Thank you to the first pervert to turn up.

I thought that coeducational meant something to do with Joint Honours studies here, or with general studies, etc.

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Thank you to the first pervert to turn up.


So you are buying the game now?

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There was a game a few years back where you were a porn mogul, but I can't recall it's name.


Are you talking about Wet - The sex empire (or something like that)??? Never played it, but looked fun

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I am wary of games such as these. Games that sell due to sex probably haven't got the same level of gameplay that games selling due to their gameplay have. Gameplay takes a second, or worse, priority for these games.


and games that sell due to blood and gore????

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.......are also sometimes bad. But the existence of blood and gore can (and often does) coexist with a great game.

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Thank you to the first pervert to turn up.

I thought that coeducational meant something to do with Joint Honours studies here, or with general studies, etc.



Back in the Old days, universities were for men. then someone came up with the idea that women should also have higher education . Some founded colleges for women (first in the US was Vassar I believe? Radcliffe a bit later?) Others founded Colleges for both men and women, IE "coeducational" institutions - Cornell first in US, IIRC. Of course majority of students were still men, and women made the place "coeducational" and were called "coeds". The term is basically obsolete now, when single sex colleges are uncommon, men and women are present in more or less equal numbers at "coed" schools, and women play a more equal role. The term survives in the recesses of the male mind, I suppose.

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.......are also sometimes bad. But the existence of blood and gore can (and often does) coexist with a great game.


so does skanky have no reason to be wary of the games featured in THIS thread?

Or is the problem that they will draw Sunday gamers?

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the term is also used in dorms. Such as a Co-ed Dormatory. Which means men and women in the same building. I believe many colleges have these as well now.

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so does skanky have no reason to be wary of the games featured in THIS thread?

Or is the problem that they will draw Sunday gamers?


Well the point is Skanky was (correctly) worried that they were using sex to sell the game, which probably doesn't have much gameplay. You made the gore comment. I am sure Skanky would agree that he dislikes games where blood and gore sell the game instead of gameplay, but I had to point out that they are not mutually exclusive and there are games with both gore and gameplay. I know of no sex-sells games for which this is true. Even Sam Fox Strip Poker sucked.

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when I was a kid I enjoyed strip poker 2 on my Commodore 64 . Not a game I would pay for though, and I didn't.

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Well the point is Skanky was (correctly) worried that they were using sex to sell the game, which probably doesn't have much gameplay. You made the gore comment. I am sure Skanky would agree that he dislikes games where blood and gore sell the game instead of gameplay, but I had to point out that they are not mutually exclusive and there are games with both gore and gameplay. I know of no sex-sells games for which this is true. Even Sam Fox Strip Poker sucked.
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Ive never played Final Fantasy - that of course has violence as well as Lara Croft.

I wonder about the new game "Singles" which seems to be a more "adult" version of the Sims. Of course Ive never played the Sims either. But from comments here it seems like it would be possible to improve on the gameplay in the Sims.

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sounds like another chick game. I was wondering when companies would start to capitalize on the success of the sims with women.

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Ive never played Final Fantasy - that of course has violence as well as Lara Croft.


I dont know wether to laugh or to cry, but either way thats going in my sig line.

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LotM are you smoking something you should share with us? Your posts are uncharacteristically incomprehensible. You seem to not be reading what you are replying to, and Lara Croft is from Tomb Raider.

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1. Tomb raider, Final fantasy, whats the difference - one of those games i dont play.

2. Oy, do i have to spell everything out.

Ive never played (edit)Tomb Raider a game that sold in part because of the sexiness of the main character IE it sold on account of sex - that of course has violence as well as Lara Croft IE aside from gameplay, which i cant comment on cause i aint played (and am so unfamiliar i could confuse it with a totally different game) it has another "irrelevant factor" violence - as well as sex

I wonder about the new game "Singles" which seems to be a more "adult" version of the Sims and thereby would be seem to be an example of a game without violence, but has sex and gameplay. Of course Ive never played the Sims eitherso i cant really speak to gameplay issues for the less sexy game that established the genre. But from comments here it seems like it would be possible to improve on the gameplay in the Sims thus it may be that a sexy game, Singles, will also represent an improvement in its genre's gameplay

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