30-08-2004 19:11									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Ming The true point is freedom... with the consumer having the right to make purchase decisions for whatever reasons he or she wants

I find it interesting that this is what passes for freedom these days. That's right passes. Corporate America is selling it, and people like you are buying it. Yeah, you're free to super size that. Big deal!

	30-08-2004 19:13									#62
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I wish I could boycott the US government and not pay taxes.

	30-08-2004 19:20									#63
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You and the Libertarians have something in common, Sava.

-Arrian

	30-08-2004 19:22									#64
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No one wants to pay taxes.

	30-08-2004 19:24									#65
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I just wish I could pay my taxes in line-item format. Pick & choose exactly where my money goes. Totally unworkable, of course, but fun to think about.

-Arrian

	30-08-2004 19:32									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian I just wish I could pay my taxes in line-item format. Pick & choose exactly where my money goes. Totally unworkable, of course, but fun to think about. -Arrian

Talk about your porkbarrel spending.

	30-08-2004 19:33									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Corporate America is selling it, and people like you are buying it.

Uhhhh... you forget that I am Corporate America, and that I'm one of the people selling it, not buying it.

ADVERTISING IS JOB ONE!

	30-08-2004 19:38									#68
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Dang.

	30-08-2004 19:54									#69
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The only problem I have with Heinz is that it makes Kerry's comments on economic Benedict Arnolds chuckle worthy. As for W ketchup, if it tastes good I might be tempted to buy it. I try to give preference to quality American made products whenever possible.

	30-08-2004 19:55									#70
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Ketchup is Chinese in origin.

	30-08-2004 19:59									#71
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Yes and pizza is Italian in origin but that doesn't stop people from ordering Chicago Deep-dish pizza.

	30-08-2004 20:00									#72
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"I try to give preference to quality American made products whenever possible."
Zen buddhism?

	30-08-2004 20:01									#73
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Yes and pizza is Italian in origin but that doesn't stop people from ordering Chicago Deep-dish pizza.

Neither party is upset with Italy. The Republicans seem to think China is a great red-yellow peril.

	30-08-2004 20:03									#74
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My Nissan Maxima for one.

	30-08-2004 20:04									#75
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That's a wierd x-post.

	30-08-2004 20:06									#76
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You're a weird guy.

	30-08-2004 20:07									#77
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That's what the voices tell me.

	30-08-2004 20:19									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious No one wants to pay taxes.

If the money was used efficiently, and for good things, I wouldn't mind.

	30-08-2004 20:19									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Uhhhh... you forget that I am Corporate America, and that I'm one of the people selling it, not buying it. ADVERTISING IS JOB ONE!

Advertising is poison of the mind.

	30-08-2004 20:21									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Advertising is poison of the mind.

Good advertising is informative and useful to the consumer...

Bad advertising is just crap... and unfortunately, there is a lot of it out there...

	30-08-2004 20:21									#81
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Is there such a thing as good advertizing?

	30-08-2004 20:22									#82
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Is there such a thing as good advertizing?

Actually Ming is right... it's just that like 99.999% of advertising is bad advertising.

	30-08-2004 20:22									#83
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Is there such a thing as good advertizing?

Yes there is... but one might question that based on the bulk of crap that is out there.

	30-08-2004 20:25									#84
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I can't remember the last time I was actually informed by a commercial.

	30-08-2004 20:27									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Good advertising is informative and useful to the consumer... Bad advertising is just crap... and unfortunately, there is a lot of it out there...

I thought you would say that good advertising gets people to buy the product.

	30-08-2004 20:30									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious I thought you would say that good advertising gets people to buy the product.

That's one of the most popular misconceptions out there. Advertising can NOT sell products. It can inform, and give reasons why you should buy it... but the best advertising can hope to do is to get the advertised product on the consumers "short list"...

	30-08-2004 20:31									#87
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I could live with advertising until the invention of the popup.

Now it is total war.

	30-08-2004 20:33									#88
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BUY! CONSUME! OBEY!fnord

	30-08-2004 20:36									#89
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara BUY! CONSUME! OBEY!

You almost got that right... it should be...

Only BUY from us...
CONSUME only our products...
You only need to OBEY us...

	30-08-2004 20:36									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Ming That's one of the most popular misconceptions out there. Advertising can NOT sell products. It can inform, and give reasons why you should buy it... but the best advertising can hope to do is to get the advertised product on the consumers "short list"...

It can. How can you inform people about a homogeneous product, but you have to get some brandname recognition? Your product is the same as everyone elses, but if you play the same stupid commercial over and over, people will by your product just because they have no reason to buy the other products.