31-08-2004 23:05									#1
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For PC, X-Box, Ps2, and/or Dreamcast. Nothing too recent for PC, my computer is getting up there in age.

	31-08-2004 23:28									#2
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Tetris?

	31-08-2004 23:29									#3
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Civilization. Hahahaha... Ahem.


Try Legion if you like strategy, a Half-Life incarnation, or maybe an old transport tycoon/clone.

	31-08-2004 23:48									#4
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The problem here is knowing what you've already played in suggesting something you haven't.

	01-09-2004 01:43									#5
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X-Com Paradox games are also endless sources of entertainment, if a rather steep learning curve won't turn you away.

	01-09-2004 06:55									#6
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Dominions II , again, the best TBS game ever made. And little chance of it not running on your computer.

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gah, my first double post ever.

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i just found starships unlimited( www.apezone.com) to be quite a good game. should run well on slower pcs too as long as you have 500mhz or so. i'm actually probably going to write a review of it here in a few days or so.

	04-09-2004 01:08									#9
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we had a discussion about it before, but i'd say Thief3(deadly shadows or something like that?) is actualy a very good game for the xbox.

I'd got it last month, played the training mission, then got intrested in Cutthroats(PC), which is taking up my time now.

BUT my other half/girlfriend has since got completely into it. so much so that she rates it more than KOTOR, which she was mad on for a fair while.

While she's been on Thief i've been sneaking the odd look, and it has kindled my interest - i'll just have to wait until she has finished it before i can get a look in though.

I managed to get it for £20 as well, a store was doing a deal so look around

	05-09-2004 20:40									#10
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My suggestion would be MTW (lots of mods available); Heroes of Might & Magic III (plus expansions).

I would suggest staying away from Matrix Games, as these are aimed at severe grognards, and they lack good graphics and modability.

	07-09-2004 18:49									#11
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Imperialism 2, Sid Meiers Gettysburg/Antietam.


For something other than strateg, Baldurs Gate.

	07-09-2004 19:52									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Leonidas My suggestion would be MTW (lots of mods available); Heroes of Might & Magic III (plus expansions). I would suggest staying away from Matrix Games, as these are aimed at severe grognards, and they lack good graphics and modability.

what are these Matrix games Leonidas? just so i can keep away too

	07-09-2004 20:38									#13
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor what are these Matrix games Leonidas? just so i can keep away too

IIUC Matrix, along with Shrapnel, HPS, and Battlefront, is one of the last surviving publishers of historically accurate wargames. Theyre quite respected in the wargaming community, but as leo implies, that community favors accuracy over graphics. In the past the community liked modability (see TOAW) but the economics dont work for that - sales of any one game are so low, that the developers repackage the same engine for a different battle and release it as a new game - HPS is most accused of this.

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starships unlimited divided galaxies is a matrix game too. it's not a war game though.

	08-09-2004 03:26									#15
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My favorite game ever, aside from Ultima VII part 1, is a little gem called Star Control 2. This game was recently re-released with enhanced graphics and sound for free by the games original creators. Starcon2 is part of an old genre of space exploration games. You ride around in your spaceship exploring the various planets of the universe, conversing with funny aliens while attempting to unravel the mystery of intergalactic war. The story is that mankind has been enslaved by the dreadful, octopus-like, Ur-Quan and it is up to you as one of the last remaining humans to overthrow the Ur-Quan. To do so you'll need to forge alliances with other races, build an armada, discover the secret of the ancient precursor technology and of course, save the chick. The game has a nice fusion of RPG, exploration and action game elements.

You can get it here:

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.php

Enjoy.

	08-09-2004 14:43									#16
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@ lord of the mark + pg,

cheers for the info guys - i thought he was meaning the 'Matrix' games(of the film), which are worth staying away from too

I've got starships unlimited - just not played it yet, my gaming pc of choice isnt powerfull enough for it - still i've heard good things said about it

oh and Space05us on the extremely long longshot that you might like football(you might call it soccer) - and sports management type games, for xbox 'LMA manager 2004' is one of the best looking and fun/deep games out on console.
So far on xbox i feel there are only a handful of must have games:

1.KOTOR(played for two months)
2.Morrowind(played for six months)
3.LMA manager 2004(still playing - near endless replayability)
4.Halo(played for a month)
5.and from my gf reccomendation Thief3

i own 34 xbox games and these are the only ones that have kept my interest for more than a few days. Most of them gave me months of gaming fun and still do

	08-09-2004 14:58									#17
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You forgot Pirates of the Caribbean CoT.

If you haven't got KotOR on Xbox then you should definitely buy that first. It's a brilliant game however you want to play it, whether as "My first RPG" or as a serious RPG, as a hack-em-up or a 1337 power-game requiring careful levelling up of characters.

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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york You forgot Pirates of the Caribbean CoT. edit......

yes well the good ship PotC seduced me with her mermaid smile for a while

Still keep ones ears open for SeaDogs2(CorsairsII) - the game that PotC was meant to be...it will be in my list then

	08-09-2004 18:49									#19
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quote: Originally posted by quantum_mechani Dominions II , again, the best TBS game ever made. And little chance of it not running on your computer.

was terribly boring after one day

decent idea, just very weak on implimentation

Jon Miller

	08-09-2004 19:49									#20
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Pro Evolution Soccer 4 on PS2, X-Box or PC. Best. Football game. Ever.

	08-09-2004 20:45									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora Pro Evolution Soccer 4 on PS2, X-Box or PC. Best. Football game. Ever.

Do you like those management football games like championship manager or are you more an arcade football fan?
I was terrible at the arcade type football games - i only played SWOS in the management mode after my little bro would embarass me with 15-0 defeats !


@Space05us

If you like short(like 10hrs short!!) very scripted type games with amazing production values but no real replayability then i hear 'Chronicles of Riddick' on the xbox is where its at, maybe the sexiest looking game around?

	08-09-2004 21:34									#22
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quote: Do you like those management football games like championship manager or are you more an arcade football fan? I was terrible at the arcade type football games - i only played SWOS in the management mode after my little bro would embarass me with 15-0 defeats !

Ive played since CM1 but with CM4 its gone downhill, too many stats that have too small an effect and time wasting tasks that add nothing to the experience. I dont want a really simple game like LMA though just back to the days of CM97/98 or 01/02, with sensible improvements. SWOS is also excellent, although i remember it crashing at the end of every season in manager mode on the amiga i was stuck to the normal playing season, maybe it was my dodgy copy.

FIFA is more arcade, PES is more realistic. FIFA are obsessed with celebrity intro music, fancy menus and motion captured animation. AFAIK PES involves a lot more hand animation, each move of a player flows into the next a lot smoother, which really adds to the realism, its beautiful. Buy PES.

	08-09-2004 21:57									#23
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yeah i heard CM4 had gone a bit wrong. Still LMA 2004 has improved in leaps and bounds according to people who've followed the game.
Apart from not having quite as many players in its database as CM the only other thing i miss is not being able to recruit old players as potential coaches.

The big thing i like in LMA 2004 is the match screen(the highlights are bad though after the game- the camera angles are awful). I guess from SWOS days i just like to see a game, even if i dont actually control the players

	08-09-2004 22:03									#24
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Atarti is releasing for Xbox and PS2 a remake of their classic games - which all will be on one disc. There will be one game that was made but never released included. I wonder if they will have that Dig Dug game, mmmm?

	09-09-2004 19:11									#25
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark IIUC Matrix, along with Shrapnel, HPS, and Battlefront, is one of the last surviving publishers of historically accurate wargames. Theyre quite respected in the wargaming community, but as leo implies, that community favors accuracy over graphics. In the past the community liked modability (see TOAW) but the economics dont work for that - sales of any one game are so low, that the developers repackage the same engine for a different battle and release it as a new game - HPS is most accused of this.

Have to agree here.

It's the year 2004, and Matrix especially hasn't really pulled anything innovative.

For example: War in the Pacific: It's a HUGE game, but is available through digital download ONLY. So you pay $80.00 or so, and download a 500 MB game.

What happens when you want to re-sell it? You're outta luck.

Also, the AI is so geared to historical moves that any deviation from it by the player will cause ridiculous results - one player won as Japan in early 1943

Many of their games, while interesting, rely on old school graphics and AI programming that went out years ago. This simply won't do.

However, while the graphics look old school, the computer requirements for the games are out of this world. For example: WaW (a turn-based game) looks slightly better than the old Axis & Allies game, yet it requires a 128 MB graphics card and 512 MB of RAM to play it.

Compare this with MTW: I can play this game with a 16 MB video card.

My suggestion is the MTW/RTW games - highly innovative and there are plenty of mods available. I am not a RTS gamer, but I can handle the MTW tactical battles with ease.

Also, Heroes of Might & Magic III (plus expansions).

If you like wargames, try the Panzer General 2 game. There are tons of new campaigns available, as well as all the other games in the 5 Star series.

EU2 is a great game, and IMHO, is still Paradox's best game.

Battlefront is coming out with Strategic Command 2. Looks quite interesting. It will be using an event system; and the screenshots remind me of Civ2.

Cheers!

	09-09-2004 20:30									#26
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Morrowind, KOTOR- both X-box games

	09-09-2004 23:21									#27
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For the x-box I really enjoy what Diss mentioned, as well as Ninja Gaiden and Ghost Recon. A lot of folks here have a phobia of games that require reflexes, but Ghost Recon, like Rainbow Six, is more about planning and setting **** up than reflexes. Ninja Gaiden is pretty much all action, but the controls are beautiful enough that once you get the hang of it, it's a fun game just to lose at.

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Ghost Recon i forgot about that one(it probably got swamped in my memmory by all the war based FPS games out now!) - i've got an on going two player campaign to finish

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The Age of Wonders series is an awesome fantasy strategy series.

	10-09-2004 01:02									#30
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For some reason I didn't enjoy KOTOR. Most of the characters felt contrived. The story wasn't great but it was okay. I can't really explain why it felt contrived where as I am perfectly happy with Baldurs Gate.
I do know that the battle strategy was rudimentary at best. Strategy of course is limited by third person perspective and only having Two party members.
My Biggest complaint of all was why couldn't I sell big Z into slavery??? Wookie whining is a terribly annoying thing.

I am however looking forward to KOTOR2, any thing which has Fearghus Uruquarts (and his new teams) name attached to it can't be bad.