06-09-2004 22:17									#1
	Hello, My Name is Hurricane Ivan Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Pleased to beat ya!!!





Here we go again, maybe...

	06-09-2004 22:20									#2
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Oh go away. I don't have to think about this 'till later this week.

	06-09-2004 22:25									#3
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Abandon Florida! Abandon Florida!

	06-09-2004 22:27									#4
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This far out, I'm not worried. Ivan could easily go anywhere but Florida.

	06-09-2004 22:27									#5
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3 in one season? whats the most theyve evern had in one season?

	06-09-2004 22:32									#6
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We've already had three tropical cyclones (Bonnie, Charley, and Frances) this season, which is a record. Charley and Frances occuring within one month of each other is the first time that's happened since 1950. If Ivan hits, we'll be rivalling NC, which got hit with three hurricanes in two months in 1999.

	06-09-2004 22:36									#7
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This shouldn't be too bad for the US, since its going to slam into the mountains of Hispanola.

	06-09-2004 23:38									#8
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Mother nature is just trying to make sure Florida isn't there to screw up the elections again in November

	07-09-2004 00:01									#9
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By sinking Trinidad?

	07-09-2004 00:32									#10
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Terrible.

	07-09-2004 00:36									#11
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It seems that the US has little to worry about at this point. The carribbean, OTOH...

	07-09-2004 00:36									#12
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Looks like the inmates at Guantanemo Bay are in for a bath...

	07-09-2004 00:41									#13
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AHA!

I blame bush.

	07-09-2004 01:10									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel AHA! I blame bush.

Welcome to our fine society, Az! Membership is free of charge, but you have to commit yourself to always keep looking for new ways in which things can be blamed on Bush.

There are, and I cannot stress this too strongly, still far too many things NOT blamed on President Bush. I mean, I can sometimes go for days without encountering things blamed on Bush, and quite frankly I'm sick of it.

Blame on!

	07-09-2004 02:26									#15
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This is obviously the act of Chinese terrorists with their weather gun

	07-09-2004 02:28									#16
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Seriously though, we have building standards for earthquakes, why not hurricanes?

Putting in a few rounded edges onto buildings seems like it wouldn't cost much and would keep the wind from doing so much damage.

It's a radical idea but in the long run would save billions.

	07-09-2004 04:11									#17
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We have building standards for hurricanes. Older buildings, however, were grandfathered. And no amount of standards are gonna stop a Cat 4 hurricane from wrecking havoc.

BTW, anyone take me up on investing in OJ futures? I wish I had the money to do it. Next year's orange crop was wrecked.

	07-09-2004 04:14									#18
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Well buy a little lot and start planting!

	07-09-2004 04:17									#19
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That's not how it works. BTW, it's illegal for non-farmers to own citrus trees in Florida. The farmers are afraid we won't take good enough care of our trees and that it might allow citrus canker to spread. Not that it stops people. I plan on having my own citrus trees when I move to South Florida and get some land.

	07-09-2004 04:19									#20
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara We have building standards for hurricanes. Older buildings, however, were grandfathered. And no amount of standards are gonna stop a Cat 4 hurricane from wrecking havoc. BTW, anyone take me up on investing in OJ futures? I wish I had the money to do it. Next year's orange crop was wrecked.

I disagree!

There are some designs that would negate wind damage, though they would be radical in appearance.

	07-09-2004 04:26									#21
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Sounds good, I'd also want to have citrus trees if the climate allowed it.

Here we have to grow even tomatoes and cucmbers in greenhouses - and even then we have to just hope for the best.

	07-09-2004 04:27									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker There are some designs that would negate wind damage, though they would be radical in appearance.

I doubt there is any design that a mobile home could have that would protect it from a Cat 4

	07-09-2004 04:28									#23
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I'm talking about regular homes.

	07-09-2004 04:29									#24
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This is the South, Teddie. A huge chunk of the population is damned poor.

	07-09-2004 04:31									#25
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Well DUH!!!!!!!!!

But not everybody is living in a damn trailer home. Especially the people with money on the coasts.

And by the way Florida has different demographics from the rest of the South because of all the Northerners who relocate there and all the Haitians and Cubans that immigrate to the south.

	07-09-2004 04:35									#26
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How many "once every hundred years" hurricanes in do you need to get in a year for a Republican to admit to climate change?

	07-09-2004 04:59									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker But not everybody is living in a damn trailer home. Especially the people with money on the coasts.

You would be surprised how many people on the coast live in trailer homes. Where Charlie made landfall was a trailer park.

quote: And by the way Florida has different demographics from the rest of the South because of all the Northerners who relocate there and all the Haitians and Cubans that immigrate to the south.

Yes and no. There are a lot more Notherners living here, but even in Miami you can find native crackers. It's a schizophrenic state.

	07-09-2004 06:36									#28
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FYI: 'Ivan' is the Russian equivalent of the English 'John'.

	07-09-2004 08:11									#29
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Just went out for a little bit. Needed to get out and be around some people after being shut in for the last few days and after my little tornado scare (we had a tornado warning and then I heard a rumbling sound getting louder, grabbed the cats and ducked into the bathroom and under a counter . . . it was just thunder, but still . . . )

My apartment complex is a mess. Branches are down everywhere and I even passed a fallen tree. Leaves and needles are all over the place. When everything starts rotting it's gonna smell. Frogs are out though, croaking like crazy.

	08-09-2004 08:25									#30
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Well, Frances has spawned over 60 tornados in her wake. All day today, the radio kept going on emergency warning, and one passed nearby, maybe a mile or so away.

Ivan may hit us, ironically enough, because of a trough created by Frances. It is expected to hit Jamaica as a Cat 5 storm. Yikes.