08-09-2004 22:29									#31
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This, even.

	08-09-2004 22:31									#32
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This might help...(Spanish is your native language, isn't it?)

	08-09-2004 22:31									#33
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quote: Dude, I think your English is fantastic. The rest of it was perfectly fine, I'm just trying to point out the idiom. Idioms are tricky to use, especially if you're not a native speaker. The way you used it doesn't make sense. We knew what you wanted to say, so it's cool, it's just that you might want to know how the phrase is used.

I'm close to being a native speaker considering I have been learning english since I was 5. So please spare me that. The way I used it does in fact make sense. And you don't know what you are talking about. If I could not get this right there is no way in hell I would be getting As on essays.

	08-09-2004 22:32									#34
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Now, Q's just beating a dead monkey!!!

	08-09-2004 22:33									#35
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quote: Wrong, wrong. I still used it properly for the meaning I intended.

The meaning you intended is that the projections are crap, is it not?

With the idiom, and how you said it, the meaning is that you actually put stock in those projections.

What BustaMike and I are trying to point out is that the idiom, the way you used it, does not convey what we think you're trying to say.

	08-09-2004 22:34									#36
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quote: I'm close to being a native speaker considering I have been learning english since I was 5. So please spare me that. The way I used it does in fact make sense. And you don't know what you are talking about. If I could not get this right there is no way in hell I would be getting As on essays.

Unless you use that figure of speech in every essay...

Look, I'm a native speaker and even I don't get all the idioms right. I've been known to think that "your goose is cooked" was a good thing...

	08-09-2004 22:34									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed quote: Wrong, wrong. I still used it properly for the meaning I intended. With the idiom, and how you said it, the meaning is that you actually put stock in those projections.

No I didn't.

	08-09-2004 22:35									#38
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quote: Now, Q's just beating a dead monkey!!!

	08-09-2004 22:36									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed quote: I'm close to being a native speaker considering I have been learning english since I was 5. So please spare me that. The way I used it does in fact make sense. And you don't know what you are talking about. If I could not get this right there is no way in hell I would be getting As on essays. Unless you use that figure of speech in every essay... Look, I'm a native speaker and even I don't get all the idioms right. I've been known to think that "your goose is cooked" was a good thing...

Look, I don't care if you think it is used wrong because you are wrong.

	08-09-2004 22:36									#40
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quote: I don't take [the projections] with a grain of salt.

Fez, just compare what you said with the examples given in all the links.

	08-09-2004 22:37									#41
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quote: Look, I don't care if you think it is used wrong because you are wrong.

except I'm not. just compare what you said with the examples given in all the links.

	08-09-2004 22:38									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed quote: Look, I don't care if you think it is used wrong because you are wrong. except I'm not. just compare what you said with the examples given in all the links.

No you didn't because the links are wrong since they don't refer to anything I said.

	08-09-2004 22:39									#43
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quote: No you didn't because the links are wrong since they don't refer to anything I said.

they're showing you how the idiom is properly used...

	08-09-2004 22:40									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed quote: No you didn't because the links are wrong since they don't refer to anything I said. they're showing you how the idiom is properly used...

Again, there was nothing wrong with the way I used it.

	08-09-2004 22:43									#45
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except that you throw in a negating word in an idiom that does not mesh well with it.

	08-09-2004 22:43									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed except that you throw in a negating word in an idiom that does not mesh well with it.

Again there was nothing wrong with the way I used it. So please stop the grammar hitlerism especially when I'm right.

	08-09-2004 22:46									#47
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quote: Again there was nothing wrong with the way I used it. So please stop the grammar hitlerism especially when I'm right.

You're Right, and it's funny that someone on the Right isn't in the right and resorts to equating someone who is moderate but in the right with someone who was far more Right than most people are today.

I'm just saying that the way the idiom was used in the sentence didn't fit with the meaning of the idiom.

	08-09-2004 22:47									#48
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Dude, seriously. I wouldn't have said anything if you had written it correctly. Q provided like 8 links that support this. Screaming that you are correct doesn't make it so.

Regardless, I've had a wonderful laugh over this. I had no idea it would turn into such a great threadjack. I gotta go for now. Later guys

	08-09-2004 22:47									#49
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quote: You're Right, and it's funny that someone on the right isn't in the right and resorts to equating someone who is moderate but in the right with someone who was far more Right than most people are today.

What?

	08-09-2004 22:48									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed quote: Again there was nothing wrong with the way I used it. So please stop the grammar hitlerism especially when I'm right. You're Right, and it's funny that someone on the right isn't in the right and resorts to equating someone who is moderate but in the right with someone who was far more Right than most people are today. I'm just saying that the way the idiom was used in the sentence didn't fit with the meaning of the idiom.

Speak english please. I'm saying you are wrong. Dead wrong when it comes to english.

Q's links are not relevant because they say nothing of the way I used it.

	08-09-2004 22:51									#51
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that is English, and I was having fun with "when I'm right" bit. I also fixed the capitalization.

when Right is used, it's referring to the political leaning. you're a Rightist. Fascism is also Rightist. I'm not saying you are Fascist at all, just to make that clear. when someone is "on the Right", they are rightist.

when someone is "in the right", they are correct. someone who is not correct is "in the wrong".

quote: Q's links are not relevant because they say nothing of the way I used it.

How are they not relevant? They showcase the exact way you use the idiom.

	08-09-2004 22:51									#52
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What the hell is wrong with you guys?! Stop beating that dead monkey!!

This is the most Fez'd thread I've seen for a long while.

	08-09-2004 22:55									#53
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quote: Stop beating that dead monkey!!

I'm in the right but not on the Right, and don't take that with a grain of salt.

	08-09-2004 22:56									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed that is English, and I was having fun with "when I'm right" bit. I also fixed the capitalization. when Right is used, it's referring to the political leaning. you're a Rightist. Fascism is also Rightist. I'm not saying you are Fascist at all, just to make that clear. when someone is "on the Right", they are rightist.

You're stalinist. I'm talking about right or wrong. Get your english right or don't talk to me anymore. You are just being a nescient kid. It IS NOT REFERRING TO A POLITICAL LEANING! GET THAT F--KING RIGHT.

And your links are not relevant because the way I used it was proper.

	08-09-2004 22:59									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo You are just being a nescient kid.

	08-09-2004 23:01									#56
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quote: You're stalinist. I'm talking about right or wrong. Get your english right or don't talk to me anymore. You are just being a nescient kid. It IS NOT REFERRING TO A POLITICAL LEANING! GET THAT F--KING RIGHT.

good god, I was having a bit of fun there. i know you weren't referring to a political leaning, fez. that does not suddenly make it wrong to have a little play on words and use the multiple meanings of the word "right" in a spot of fun, right?

and how does that make me stalinist? i'll take that insult with a grain of salt, because most people here realize i'm no fan of nkorea, one of the last stalinist states in the world, and indeed am a moderate libertarian, which is a far cry from being stalinist. your words wound me deeply, and don't take that with a grain of salt.

i do have my english correct. i speak it very well, as i should, since it is my native tongue. indeed, i speak it better than my mother's native tongue, and better than any language that i've picked up through school. being raised a rice cracker makes me somewhat used to figures of speech, and i'm a-fixin' to help my mother learn those idioms in her adoptive tongue.

i do like how you threw in that SAT word, although i take it with a grain of salt, seeing as i'm rather educated and i'm not a goat of any sort.

that said, i do like the billy goat tavern, and don't take that with a grain of salt.

	08-09-2004 23:02									#57
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Look I'm not going to continue talking to somebody who is quick to criticize but can't even speak english properly. You are rather an ignorant one.

	08-09-2004 23:04									#58
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where have i got my english wrong, fezzie?

	08-09-2004 23:06									#59
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Well "I" is supposed to be capitalized, and so is every first letter of each sentence you make.

quote: You're Right, and it's funny that someone on the right isn't in the right and resorts to equating someone who is moderate but in the right with someone who was far more Right than most people are today.

And what the hell was this? A glaring example of poor english, run on sentences and ignorance.

	08-09-2004 23:06									#60
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Nowhere ........ after you edited.