11-10-2004 09:18									#361
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident The Rams still suck. He's not that great of a head coach. I stand by that. They never learn. you have to run the ball to win. well except for this game . yeah I'm pissed my fantasy football running back only got 15 carries

Running the ball against run defenses when you have Holt, Bruce and Faulk as a receiver. Now that's really dumb.

	11-10-2004 09:38									#362
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Here's the really stupid move that I made. I traded Eric Johnson, the TE for the Niners, last week for Travis Henry. Johnson got 14 rec. 162 yards and a TD. Henry didn't do **** again this week. The worst part is the guy I traded with wanted my other TE more, but I wouldn't make that trade.

	11-10-2004 11:22									#363
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Best player of the week is Wes Welker of the Fins. Not only did he run kicks back, but took over KICKING duties when Mare went out with an injury. He actually hit a nice FG! He's the first player in over 50 years to kick a FG and return a kick. Utterly amazing!

As for the Det/Atl game, I wouldn't put that much stock in a game where the head coach of one team (Det) used to have the head coach of the other team (Atl) as his defensive coordinator. I'm sure Mooch knew all of Mora's secrets, while Mooch has had some time to develop some of his own. Oh, and Atl's offensive coordinator was the O-Coord under Mooch as well . You now see why Mooch was the head coach over that bunch... but I still think Atl is a better team than Det, overall.

Oh, and Min/Hou was a barn burner! Fun looking game!

	11-10-2004 17:46									#364
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Two things about the Lions game: Undersized Atlanta D-line got b*tchslapped by the Lions huge O-line. Lions defensive front four were game MVP, and had Vick running for his life most of the game.

They're a much improved and better-prepared team this year, and they're making plays. Hats off to Mariucci..

	11-10-2004 18:35									#365
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I couldn't believe both Seattle and Arizona gave up double-digit late-game leads -- and both lost in OT.

AZ had to give up two 8-point TDs in the last 4:35 to lose that game, wasting the first decent Josh McCown performance of the year. Over 400 yds for Rattay.

Both pretty amazing finishes.

But the game that really shocked me was the Giants just having their way with Dallas, 28-10. Dallas blew this game by missing two 4th-and-1 attempts. The first one resulted in no points on a long drive (down by 3 at the time), and the 2nd gave the Giants the ball near midfield. Definitely a panic attack by Parcells to go for it -- down by 6 with over 10 minutes left. The resulting short drive for a field goal made it a 2-posession game.

I've never seen the Tuna so depressed as in his post-game interview.
Adversity, Dallas!

	11-10-2004 19:54									#366
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Well those Seatlle receivers sure dropped a lot of passes. They certainly did not look like prime time receivers. Seattle may make the playoffs, but they won't go far, IMHO.

Since we still do not know whether Atlanta is a good or just an average team, Detroit could be very good or just average itself. Time will tell.

But that injury to Williams has got to hurt big time.

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To see Detroit tied with Minny at the top of the Division at 3 - 1 is just weird. And to see the Packers tied with the Bears at the bottom at 1 - 3 is just sweet

At least the Bears now get to move into the easy part of the schedule. Going to Minny and Green Bay, and then playing the Eagles was just brutal. We thought we would probably be 1 -3 at this point, but who would have guessed that the lone victory would be the Green Bay game...

	11-10-2004 20:36									#368
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Ming, who is goint to QB the Bears next week? And is our MLB healthy?

	11-10-2004 20:39									#369
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quote: Two things about the Lions game: Undersized Atlanta D-line got b*tchslapped by the Lions huge O-line. Lions defensive front four were game MVP, and had Vick running for his life most of the game.

By the way you are talking, you'd expect the Lions to have outgained the Falcons by 100 yards (Lions O line was better than Falcons D line and Lions D line was better than the Falcons O line), but that definetly wasn't the case.

Detroit had 227 yards of total offense (not bad at all by the Atl D) and Atlanta had 279 yards of offense (not bad by the Det D).

Edit: Further looking at the box score reveals that just about every stat is the same for both teams except turnovers and passing yards (Atl had a decent amount more).

What REALLY hurt the Falcons was 4 turnovers while the Lions had none. Without those turnovers, the Lions don't win the game. So it wasn't the Lions O line dominated the Falcons D line, or the Det D line dominated the Atl O line, it was simply turnovers.

	11-10-2004 20:45									#370
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Ming, who is goint to QB the Bears next week? And is our MLB healthy?

The infamous Jonathon Quinn will continue to QB for the Bears. While he simply sucked in the Eagles game, they have faith in him. We shall see

The Bears say that Urlacher will be ready to go this week, and that the off week helped. Again, we shall see.

	11-10-2004 21:04									#371
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I didn't get to see last week's Bears game. But, from my understanding Quinn didn't look good at all. But that Philly defense is probably the best in the NFC. Could it have been the Philly defense that made him look bad?

	11-10-2004 21:08									#372
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Nah... he was missing wide open receivers... the problem wasn't the defense or offense... HE was the problem. Granted, even if he had been on his game, they probably would have lost anyway... but he looked terrible. The only time he looked good was his "two minute" offense...

Washington is a game the Bears can win... so he better show up ready to play. The off week can't hurt, so we should get a pretty good feel watching him against Washington if he is any good or not.

	11-10-2004 21:10									#373
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quote: Originally posted by Ming The Bears say that Urlacher will be ready to go this week, and that the off week helped. Again, we shall see.

I've heard it said that Lovie Smiths defense exploits the strengths of LBs. The Rams always had suck LBs.

	11-10-2004 21:13									#374
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui What REALLY hurt the Falcons was 4 turnovers while the Lions had none. Without those turnovers, the Lions don't win the game. So it wasn't the Lions O line dominated the Falcons D line, or the Det D line dominated the Atl O line, it was simply turnovers.

Winning the battle on the line has a hell of a lot to do with turnovers.

	11-10-2004 21:15									#375
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I'm gonna get destroyed in the Fantasy League tonight. Had I just started Eric Johnson and Hasselbeck like I always do!!!!!!!!!!

Damn you Bezerker!

I hate Favre

	11-10-2004 21:16									#376
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Vick was sacked 6 times...They were simply dominated by the Lions' front four.

O-line made big pushes when it counted. 3rd-down conversions and Pinner's two pushes into the end zone, one of which was wrongly ruled down.

	11-10-2004 21:17									#377
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Well those Seatlle receivers sure dropped a lot of passes. They certainly did not look like prime time receivers. Seattle may make the playoffs, but they won't go far, IMHO.

Their recievers aren't their strength, but they are good enough to benefit from the running game and the defense.

Still, you need a QB to win the superbowl. I say Philly is the favorite this year, but Seattle is pretty close.

	11-10-2004 21:18									#378
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Seattle better learn not to fall asleep on defense in the 4th quarter if they want to go all the way. They had the game won... and they choked. They stopped doing everything they were doing right, and fell back into a prevent... and like most teams... died for it. Bulger ate them alive in the 4th and OT.

	11-10-2004 21:19									#379
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quote: Originally posted by Japher I'm gonna get destroyed in the Fantasy League tonight. Had I just started Eric Johnson and Hasselbeck like I always do!!!!!!!!!! Damn you Bezerker! I hate Favre

Oh yeah, Eric Johnson was suppose to be hurt too.

	11-10-2004 21:21									#380
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Don't get me started Kid

	11-10-2004 21:21									#381
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They could have been tired. The Rams ran on them a bit. If you're just a little tired and you underestimate a team you can lose the game.

	11-10-2004 21:23									#382
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Don't get me started Kid

*snickers*

Don't you know that teams like to say that their stars are more injured than they are.

	11-10-2004 21:24									#383
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I've been playing Travis Henry who has been Day to Day since the beginning of the season

	11-10-2004 21:26									#384
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious They could have been tired. The Rams ran on them a bit. If you're just a little tired and you underestimate a team you can lose the game.

There is no excuse for how they played in the 4th quarter. After shutting down the St Louis offense for 3 quarters, they just got lazy... they were laughing on the side line after St Louis's first 4th quarter touch down... It ain't over, until it's over, and maybe Seattle learned an important lesson this weekend. They better have

	11-10-2004 21:28									#385
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quote: Originally posted by Japher I've been playing Travis Henry who has been Day to Day since the beginning of the season

At least you didn't trade Eric Johnson for him like I did.

	11-10-2004 21:31									#386
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quote: Originally posted by Ming they were laughing on the side line after St Louis's first 4th quarter touch down... It ain't over, until it's over, and maybe Seattle learned an important lesson this weekend. They better have

That sounds like the problem is with the coaches. They should never have let that happen.

Seattle tends to get really confident against the Rams because they match up against us so well, but we beat them last year too. There's no excuse, true.

	11-10-2004 21:34									#387
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Brett Favre's brother-in-law died.

I hope he doesn't pull out another game of your life like he did last year against the Raiders when his dad died.

That was awesome

	11-10-2004 21:37									#388
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I wouldn't be too sad if my brother-in-law died.

	12-10-2004 08:53									#389
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uhhh, is anyone watching this.

Today at work I said Green Bay was a lock to win.

what the hell happened? I think last year was the last they had. Perhaps their team (esp. defense) is older than I thought.

Rebuilding time. Time to kick Favre out.

	12-10-2004 09:00									#390
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Time to kick Favre out.

Uh, no. Is it time for them to draft a QB in the first round of the draft? Absolutely. But they don't have an Eli Manning or a Ben Roethlisberger back there, and even injured, Brett Favre still gives the Packers a better chance to win than anyone else.

You don't just kick a future Hall of Famer to the curb. The Giants did that a decade ago with Phil Simms, and they suffered the consequences.

I'm only three points short of an incredible 27-point comeback. C'mon Brown, get me some more garbage yards... (Of course, they'll probably yank him now with the game in hand, forcing me to kill Jeff Fisher...)

EDIT: Indeed, that's what he did, but I'll let him go since Franks went and caught another TD to ruin my chances anyway. Goddamn Franks...