12-09-2004 22:52									#1
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Hi guys,

I am at CFC and would like to organize a small challenge between some of your experienced players and one of ours (not me BTW ).

We have a "god-like" player (fast and reliable of course) for Japan in the WWII Pacific conquest and I think it would be interesting (and fun) if 2 to 4 of your main players could try to beat him (we will figure the details precisely like the number of ally players after (and if) you agree).

I have played that scenario a few times myself with either Japan or Allies winning so I think it could be a fair game. But you can disagree of course.

Of course if some of you are interested they would have to "not be" CFC players too and if possible a part of your core players team since they would represent Apolyton.

And this way we could have a common event.

The maximum number of turns is 50 but usually the game is won around turn 20, so it would last less than a month with a one-turn per day game.

Ideas, signing in, questions all welcome.

Loulong

Last edited by LouLong on 12-09-2004 at 22:59

	13-09-2004 14:00									#2
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Come on, is nobody interested in such a PBEM and the challenge ?

The event will be held in both places with spoiler threads and you can choose a referee.

We just want to meet 3 or 4 players from Apolyton for the US, China, Commonwealth and maybe the Dutch (who can be played by another ally player).

	13-09-2004 19:30									#3
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I would be happy to take on CFC's "god-like" player. I am new to PBEMs, though, so perhaps not 'poly's best representative. Anyone else want to help?

I do have one condition though: If someone from CFC tells me to "READ THE FAQ" I will quit on the spot.

	14-09-2004 00:12									#4
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Arghh ! I knew there were not only cowards at Apolyton !
Thanks Theseus (just hope you don't play at CFC as well ?).

If you could gather a team around you it would be even better. Godlike maybe I exaggerated a bit but he is definitely a challenge

You won't be asked to read the whole FAQ but talks will be made to agree on a common set of rules prior to the start.

	14-09-2004 05:08									#5
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count me in if needed. first turn to America ? he, he.

	14-09-2004 05:41									#6
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Sure, I will be happy to join in. Not one of the best, but should do in a pinch. Send me a PM or email. BTW, I am not picky, any one of the allies will work for me.

I only have 4 games going on now, so a 5th will be welcome.

	14-09-2004 05:58									#7
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Thanks for the challenge

as they say down under: Two more schooners thanks mate

I am in


edit: The Game Order - for the record

The Foe...
1. Rcoutme - Japan

The Allies...
2. Theseus - America
3. GodKing - Commonwealth
4. Jshler - Chinese
5. Paddy - Dutch

Last edited by Paddy the Scot on 01-02-2005 at 16:05

	14-09-2004 11:38									#8
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Hmmm, who is more the 'god-like' rep of Apolyton? GodKing, or the omnipresent Deity, Paddy?

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	14-09-2004 11:43									#9
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Paddy is not the one - me just a player

see Jet Li for that





and I should be omnipresent thanks be to MG and DQ

	16-09-2004 01:35									#10
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Ok, sorry for the delay as we had some issues at CFC selecting the player lol

Paddy the Scot, Godking, jshelr and Theseus, would you please send me a mail a mantaray AT club-internet DOT fr, so that I get your mails. Preferably when you have decided among yourselves who plays what allied civ.
Please give me your Apolyton nicknames as well (otherwise I might not get who is who !).



We will have a thread at CFC for it and one here as well (maybe this one). Since it is a challenge between two communities, we will host a spoiler thread as well for the benefit of all (lurkers, members not playing in it). Could be nice if you did the same here.

I only need your word you won't be checking it and I give you mine our player won't look at yours.

We will use the scenario file with a simple modification where Japan plays first. Otherwise there are always problems with the Dutch not being able to play the first turn, except if you have found a way out of that problem.

I will submit the biq for you to check.

	16-09-2004 03:40									#11
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Took advantage of being next to read this and elected T the captain. Ball in his court. I just don't want to be interred in a concentration camp for the whole 50 turns.

At least i've got the right avatar for this game

	16-09-2004 04:19									#12
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I have to run out right now, but will address this later this evening.

History WILL repeat itself.

	16-09-2004 08:13									#13
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Paddy and Godking, can you please PM me your email addresses [edit: Russ already did so]? I will forward the lot on to LouLong when we are ready.

LL, is there a thread at CFC we can read to catch up on what you all have developed thus far? Or if you have a FAQ developed, we'd be happy with that.

To be honest, I haven't played the WW2 scenario since C3C first came out... I don't even remember what allied civs are represented in this scenario.

Last edited by Theseus on 16-09-2004 at 08:49

	16-09-2004 08:48									#14
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Ummm, I am a bit confused... I just opened the scenario to familiarize myself with it, and the only non-Japanese choices are the US, China, and the Commonwealth. So how are four of us supposed to play?

	16-09-2004 08:51									#15
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Oh, and one more thing, LL: Knowing that he is active at CFC as well as here, I would hope that I am safe in assuming that your "god-like" player is not AESON??!!

	16-09-2004 09:07									#16
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so who is the Cfc player ?

why the silly threats earlier?

when will we see your rules that you want?

emailed LL my email address
pm'd Theseus as well as requested

ok so of us - who will play who

happy to go with the flow
also happy to play Australia - The Commonwealth

	16-09-2004 13:31									#17
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The player is Rcoutme with Eric_A as technical advisor replacement player and strategist (he and Dogboy are actually our "gods" in that game but could not commit fully to this game as intended so they will advise but another player volunteered to do the actual playing).

Silly threats ? You mean boasting ? Nothing serious, just for the fun of the challenge.

I got Paddy the Scot's e-mail but not the others.

About rules : special for this one we wish to have no city razing (except accidently when capturing a 1 pop city) since there are no settlers. On the other hand selling all the improvements of a city is perfectly allowed.
That's the first inter-site challenge I set up so I might forget a few things so don't hesitate telling me as you are part of it now.

Not much more apart for the standard list of exploits to avoid which from what I have seen is not too different at Poly and CFC. In case you can choose a non-player referee to the game with whom I can discuss would one problem arise.

@ Theseus : since it is a challenge, it is better all civs are taken by AI so it also includes Netherlands who are weak but important (warfare in Indonesia + lots of Victory Locations + lots of resources to protect ...).

And no it is not Aeson (I haven't even met that player).

Thread at CFC : http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=99760
When we start we will host the "private" spoiler thread. Will you have one also ?

	16-09-2004 20:08									#18
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Ummm... LL, lemme get this straight... you threw down the challenge without actually having a CFC player in place??

	16-09-2004 20:26									#19
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yes he did but thats just his way, Hi Lou chrisius here

I will happily assist you as the Poly ref Lou if you like and if thats OK with the Poly team ??

No worries if not

	16-09-2004 22:10									#20
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Hi Chrisius, as far as I am concerned it is a good idea since you are at both places.

Yes, it is my way lol. You always have to get one opponent first besides I knew there was interest. Just these people could eventually not commit to that.

Organizing a new event always takes some time in the making but I hope it will be a success and other such events can take place.

	16-09-2004 22:28									#21
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Chrisius is fine as a ref for me.

	17-09-2004 03:47									#22
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so when do we start?

	17-09-2004 05:25									#23
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Well, first, don't we at 'poly have to choose which civs we each want to play?

	17-09-2004 11:37									#24
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Yes, you do then send me your e-mails telling me what civ you have (I have just Paddy's right now).

	17-09-2004 12:22									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot happy to go with the flow also happy to play Australia - The Commonwealth

so what nations do we want to have?

	17-09-2004 21:00									#26
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I would be happy to occansionly consult with any and all allies if screen shots are placed on a private team board.

(Are the US, UK, and Dutch allowed to show each other their saves?)

	17-09-2004 23:03									#27
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I'll take the US, I guess... although I am still feeling new to PBEMs, and rusty on the Conquest, so if someone else really ants it, that is fine with me.

	17-09-2004 23:13									#28
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Poly Team

Theseus - America
GodKing -
Jshelr -
Paddy -

available: China, Commonwealth, Dutch

	18-09-2004 00:13									#29
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i knew i would end up in a concentration camp for the whole 50 turns.

T -- the first turns are very important in this scenario

	18-09-2004 01:01									#30
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I will take whomever. Sent my email to theseus per his request. It is godking ta prodigy dot net.

I haven't played this since it came out also. Will probably play a single player jsut to refresh myself this weekend. All I remember is that the first 5 turns usually determine who will win. Also, we can mod in and allow settlers if you want. (huge benifit to japan IIRC).