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JohnT is offline JohnT

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Yeah, but the monk wasn't a six-inch high puppet!

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You're just being closed minded

I've known some 5 foot tall, 100 and nothing pound girls that could kick anybody's ass. You would never know it by their demeanor either.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.

That's why Yoda fighting was top notch.

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To quote the tagline from another crappy movie:

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Size does matter

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It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.

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The Yoda fight scene was horrible. I expected him to be far more graceful and fluid, instead of a jumping bean on crack.

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See? The fact that the Yoda fight sucked is an issue that brings both Left and Right together.

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JohnT: One of the few people who get it.

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There is nothing wrong with G ratedness.

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In a movie about the downfall of a galactic civilization there is.

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If you don't like the special editions don't buy them.

My DVDs arrived this morning.

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I thought it was a totally serious scene though.


I think the people that didn't like it just don't like Yoda, or they have an idea of what he is and isn't supposed to be.

That's why I liked it so much because he showed a side of himself that people hadn't stereotyped him to be.


Yoda was supposed to be the greatest swordsman in the Jedi ranks. I thought that scene was great, you finally got to see how hard Yoda really was.

"Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is."

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I think most people misunderstand the special editions. They are not the original Star Wars. They are the propaganda version released by the New Republic. Hence, Han shoots second to solidify him as a noble hero in history. Even the prequel movies are New Republic propaganda. Since the New Republic wishes to bring things back to the status quo before the Empire, they placed the blame of the previous Republic's fall on the scapegoat Jar Jar Binks. It was Jar Jar who let Palpatine slip into power. The truth was that the members of the galactic counsel were either bought by Palpatine or too distracted by their own political infighting to care.

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Interesting. Care to speculate on how the Holiday Special and perhaps the ancient era comic books tie into this?

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Everything produced after the original triology is propaganda, in my opinion. The original triology was created before the founding of the New Republic.

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Interesting. Care to speculate on how the Holiday Special and perhaps the ancient era comic books tie into this?


The Holiday Special was an attempt by the Empire to demoralize the Rebellion, of course!

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I need to tell my mom NOT to buy this for me for Christmas or my birthday. ****ing waste of money. :d:

Now the LotR EE box set, whenever that finally comes out, is what I want.

-Arrian

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I need to tell my mom NOT to buy this for me for Christmas or my birthday. ****ing waste of money. :d:

Now the LotR EE box set, whenever that finally comes out, is what I want.

-Arrian


It'll be out december 7th or december 14th and it'll contain much more and much better and much more important extra scenes then both first EE boxsets did combined!

Not as if the first 2 boxsets were not good, they were brilliant, but the Return of the King EE........... give it to me baby!

spoilers..... included scenes in the ROTK EE......... spoilers




included scenes:
- end of Saruman
- Confrontation between Gandalf and the witchking
- the mouth of souran appears at the black gate
- sam and frodo have to march with the orcs in mordor
- the houses of healing in which aragorn heals Faramir and Eowyn
- The crossroads scene with Frodo and Sam
- Aragorn battles sauron through the palantir
- Sam sees a star in mordor and regains hope
- Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas battle the black ships
- extended paths of the death scene
- Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli resque Eowyn from gotmog and kill him

- maybe (not sure yet) an extended epilogue that deals with the age of men in the 4th age. This should become before Sam's "I'm back" line.



---------------end of spoilers-------------------

december can't come soon enough

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And my affection for ewoks is no more than many people's affection for cats or dogs or something, so are you going to childishly call all those people on beastiality because they like them so much


I didn't know that the Ewoks came out of the screen and loved you like a cat or dog would .


Oh, and I thought the Yoda scene kicked some ass . Good stuff.

And today is the day!! In a lot of hours (damned school)... I'll have it .

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It came out here before it did in the US?! Weird.

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I can understand the originals not being exactly as he wanted due to technical and budgetary constraints, but how does that explain Han shooting first the first time around?

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If Han was the kind of guy to shoot second he'd have been dead long before he picked up Luke and Ben.

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The changes made are more extensive than I imagined. If this has been posted already, oh well.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/revie...arschanges.html

Where is the UN during all of this? Why aren't sanctions being placed on Skywalker Ranch?

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Wooot! I got it today, watched a bit. LOVE having the original trilogy on the DVD transfer, rather than watching it all grainy on basic cable .

And Verto, it's his movie, the changes are peripheral and small, and if you don't like it, don't buy it. No one is forcing you to pay for it. Lucas is releasing it the way he wants to. Your choice.

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I can understand the originals not being exactly as he wanted due to technical and budgetary constraints, but how does that explain Han shooting first the first time around?


Apparently George said he wanted Greedo to shoot first, but during the editing process, he couldn't get a good angle to have Greedo shoot first (and miss Han). With the SE's, he could make Han move away from the blast without reshooting.

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Of course I am forced to buy it - it's the price I pay for watching Star Wars in the first place. It's just that, it was bad enough seeing that Christiansen guy in the prequels; now I have to endure him in RoTJ.

I will pick the DVD set up sometime soon.

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I for one will not be buying this set ever.

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Of course I am forced to buy it - it's the price I pay for watching Star Wars in the first place. It's just that, it was bad enough seeing that Christiansen guy in the prequels; now I have to endure him in RoTJ.


It's for like 2 seconds! Jeez... some of your originalist Star Wars nerds are too silly .

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I own the OT DVDs.


So this is what Geek nirvana feels like.

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Of course I am forced to buy it - it's the price I pay for watching Star Wars in the first place. It's just that, it was bad enough seeing that Christiansen guy in the prequels; now I have to endure him in RoTJ.


It's for like 2 seconds! Jeez... some of your originalist Star Wars nerds are too silly .


You make me sick.

At least, for consolation, we get to see Leia in her slave outfit...IN DVD QUALITY!

 
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