21-09-2004 22:37									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Cruddy It's an "aspirational" thing - a salesman trying to convince you that this really is a different product. If it was truly a different product it wouldn't run Windows - so don't believe the hype.

Too late here

	22-09-2004 02:28									#122
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so I am still looking at laptops (But might just decide for a kickass desktop)

a powerbook has everything I want, but is a mac

the xseries has the right size, but is weak (poor graphics, no cd drive)

the tseries is a little large

all three are a bit more than I would like to pay

toshiba is even more expensive, and weaker and doesn't have as good as name

Jon Miller

	22-09-2004 03:20									#123
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Well, if you just want a work computer, I definitely recommend the Powerbook.

	22-09-2004 09:26									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Cruddy The only commercial advantage I can think of for Alienware is, like the Viper and Corvette, they keep their value better than their competitors.

I wouldn't say USD4,000 for Area 51 or whatever it is called is good value...

	22-09-2004 09:28									#125
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You tell me a better price from a major company.

	22-09-2004 10:11									#126
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the voodoos look like better machines

JM

	22-09-2004 10:49									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master You tell me a better price from a major company.

Why would you want to pay a major company when a small company can do the same thing at a lower price?

	22-09-2004 20:05									#128
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I don't want to deal with a smaller company. Basically, I'm looking between Alienware and Dell. Only because I want a gaming machine so Apple doesn't apply, IBM is supposedly more of the "Apple" version of the PC's, and with Voodoo, their top machines are Athlon-based.

	23-09-2004 11:37									#129
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A sucker and his money will be soon parted.

	23-09-2004 11:50									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger A sucker and his money will be soon parted.

Amen.

	23-09-2004 11:53									#131
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I am leaning more and more towards getting the Powerbook

Jon Miller

	23-09-2004 12:47									#132
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Gateway and Dell were both much better when they were much smaller.

	23-09-2004 13:26									#133
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that is true at least for Gateway

never bought a Dell (although my laptop looks very similiar to a Dell, it is a Quantex, which I beleive is no longer in business)

JM

	23-09-2004 20:31									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I am leaning more and more towards getting the Powerbook Jon Miller

	23-09-2004 20:31									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger A sucker and his money will be soon parted.

	23-09-2004 21:07									#136
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actually, looking at some web sites, there seem to be some who think that a new powerbook will be coming out in a month or so

in which case, I should probably wait for it, if I am going powerbook

JM

	23-09-2004 21:55									#137
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why are you so stuck on dell or alienware(for tech support?)? look at these urls -

http://www.resellerratings.com/ - great site which customers comment/rate businesses

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1867.html - dell lifetime rating of 4.67, which has gotten worse as they got bigger i think
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1650.html - alienware lifetime rating of 8.06, looks solid
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2079.html - monarch computer systems lifetime rating of 9.30. i hear good things about them and they are rated really well plus they seem much cheaper which probably explains half of why they are rated so high.

voodoo was above 9 too but they are way more expensive.

	24-09-2004 00:47									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master I don't want to deal with a smaller company. Basically, I'm looking between Alienware and Dell. Only because I want a gaming machine so Apple doesn't apply, IBM is supposedly more of the "Apple" version of the PC's, and with Voodoo, their top machines are Athlon-based.

What speaks against Athlon?

	24-09-2004 01:05									#139
	Got spare money?

Athlon's are still better right now, overall

Jon Miller

	24-09-2004 02:02									#140
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Especially since Intel really screwed the pooch on their next chip.

	26-09-2004 02:49									#141
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I always thought Athlon was the cheaper chip, and less games support them?

	26-09-2004 02:51									#142
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That makes no sense.

Athlons and Pentiums run the same code.

Athlons are cheaper and faster right now...

	26-09-2004 03:18									#143
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He is basically thinking about 6 years ago or so when the other chips first came on the scene. The early chips were not always entirely compatible, but were mostly so (and AMD was a lot better than Cyrix).

Currently, AMD is better than Intel.

Jon Miller

	26-09-2004 03:45									#144
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My limited knowledge finally caught up to me. So you would recommend getting an Athlon?

	26-09-2004 03:52									#145
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Right now? Yah.

Jon Miller

	26-09-2004 03:53									#146
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It seems to me that Athlon has lower frequency though...

	26-09-2004 03:54									#147
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That CyberPower link OWNZ:

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/

Plus they have a nice selection of cases that don't look like those silly AlienWare cases. You can get the same stuff as AlienWare for $2000 less.

SilverStone cases.

	26-09-2004 04:05									#148
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The frequency doesn't matter that much. You should know that sense you buy mac.

Jon Miller

	26-09-2004 04:08									#149
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quote: actually, looking at some web sites, there seem to be some who think that a new powerbook will be coming out in a month or so

People are always saying that. It's probably wishful thinking. However, it is almost certain that new Powerbooks will be released at January's Macworld Expo (it's the only line that hasn't had a big update recently). There's a good chance that they will be G5 Powerbooks in which case they will definitely be worth a look.

	26-09-2004 04:19									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller The frequency doesn't matter that much. You should know that sense you buy mac. Jon Miller

True. I was just thinking, once I buy a PC I might as well max out on it.