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When you stick two advert breaks in one episode of the Simpsons then no matter how good the show is, the enjoyment is still far reduced. |
Ye do not know how to use commercials, land lubber! They're a perfect chance t'get up and grab somethin' out o' the bung hole. Though 'tis the wench's job to bring ye grog either way.
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
time: 07:23
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Originally posted by MikeH
The BBC reporting will seem biased against Israel only if you have the point of view that the Israeli actions in Palestine are acceptable. Which they clearly aren't.
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I think they are.
They aren't always fair. I'll give you that.
But I think they are acceptable.
I frankly don't think our "landgrabbing" is outlandish.
I think that our military actions aren't that monstrous. I think that much of the damage is caused inadvertantly, and would be good to avoid, but sadly - we're drawn to urban combat by Hamas and Fatah and the like.
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And anyone that says that the BBC in any way condones the terrorism from Hamas or othe Palestinian terror organisations has no idea what they are talking about. It just doesn't happen. They report the attacks as terrible tragedies. |
I'm sorry, but they do everything but.
They practically condone terrorism by blaming it as an obvious outcome of Israeli evil doing.
Which it isn't since terrorism against Jews in Israel, started in 1920, with the first arab attacks on the Jews in mandatorial palestine.
Consider this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth...files/87713.stm
which at times makes attempt to show us a hero of freedom and justice, who has at times slipped to the use of violence against enemy civilians and political enemies.
In the summary passage it says "Arafat is a brilliant leader but a hopeless organiser and negotiator."
This is prose which tries to make a hero of Arafat, and while it does mention his terrorist acitvities and reign, it attempts to minimize them as "errors of judgement" "military leadership".
Sharon's profile on the other hand, contains words such as: "controversial" "brutal" "massacre" "dangerous"
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His mission - his enemies call it a dangerous obsession - has been to fight for Israel's security, believing all the while that the end justifies the means. |
This is is a smearing paragraph.
When talking about Arafat, it is never mentioned he is a terrorist. His fight is "taking up arms" "military leadership".
Arafat is described in a lighter shade, as very devoted to the cause:
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As a young man he was, according to one biographer, "a natural publicist" and a workaholic. At the same time, he developed an obsessive desire to be leader of the pack and to get his way. The end always justified the means. |
Arafat is mostly a workaholic (good trait), which is obsessed with leadership desires, while Sharon is simply "dangerously obsessed".
Arafat ends up looking like a regular napoleon.
While Sharon is looking like hitler.
Look in what great detail a single military action by Sharon is analyzed:
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In the 1950s he led a number of punitive military operations - one incident in 1953 when 50 houses in the village of Qibya were blown up, killing 69 residents. Another in 1955 resulted in the deaths of 38 Egyptian troops in the Gaza Strip. |
Never is it mentioned that the 69 residents were killed by mistake, while hiding from the Israeli troops, which didn't know they were there.
Arafat is leader of the PLO - probably the most active terrorist organization ever - with more deadly terrorist attacks than Al-Qaeda.
His entire terrorist career is summed up as:
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Led by Arafat, the PLO took up arms themselves, hijacking airliners and committing other acts of violence. |
The different level of detail and attention to results of dead people creates a false image in the minds of people, who aren't well familiar with history.
In another profile by BBC 4 (which makes Arafat less of a hero, but still tries to erase his terrorist past) there is absolutely no mention of a single terrorist attack:
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Certainly, his expertise in explosives and demolition held him in good stead as Fatah's operations grew increasingly military. |
That's it.
Another example:
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Mr Sharon masterminded Israel's disastrous invasion of Lebanon in 1982. |
Never is it mentioned that Arafat masterminded a disastrous coup attempt in Jordan in 1970, and later created a terrorist haven similar to Afghanistan in Lebanon, flaming the civil war to his advantage, until kicked out by Israel.
These are mere examples.
Obviously, you can come and say that this is all meaningless and stupid, and smart people know how to tell the difference. But I disagree with that. This is not a level-headed and fair approach.
Sharons actions are exaggerated and an effort is made to paint him as someone with a very bloody history.
Arafat, on the other hand, has his terrorist (and leader of 3 intifadas) career hidden from sight, and is instead described as " a brilliant leader but a hopeless organiser and negotiator."
This is simply not fair and not correct.
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If you want the BBC to say "heroic Israelis/Americans/British troops kill more rag-head children..." well, you are out of luck. Watch Fox News instead. |
I want two things:
1. The BBC to stop saying "heroic palestinian diplomats / heroic palestinian terrorists / heroic palestinian hooligans".
2. The BBC to start reporting relevant facts.
They report about the "seperation wall" without mentioning that its actually 93% fence, and that it actually stops terrorists.
They report of palestinian casualties while omitting often mitigating facts such as "it was the middle of a gun fight between two sides" "it was dark" and so on.
There are also numerous cases when some palestinian casualties have nothing to do with Israeli actions, but they are presented as such, for propoganda purposes.
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19-09-2004 04:53
Now I realize that once you got out of the Sesame Street target audience you may not have watched much PBS except for the BBC comedies. PBS imported "Upstairs, Downstairs" and "Henry VIII" and similar definitively high-brow stuff for the majority of programming on 
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