04-05-2005 05:36									#211
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I actually find it hard to play The Sims because this game requires the player to form a web of social interactions with other sims. And I am by nature an anti-social person.

This is why the game is so limited, IMO: it seems to be an open-ended game, but it actually forces the player to do certain things IF you want to maximise the experience the game has to offer.

Sure, you could argue that The Sims is not a "game" in the true sense of the word, and therefore any possible outcome of your actions in the game ARE the entire experience. But the designers of this sequel were clearly aiming to introduce some sense of "objective" or "goal" in The Sims 2, and when you have only one path leading to that objective, then the whole experience feels constrained.

(I wonder if what I wrote above makes any sense...)

	04-05-2005 13:09									#212
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The Sims is marketed towards, to put it bluntly, girls. Girls are social creatures, hence the emphasis on social interaction.

	04-05-2005 19:01									#213
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Ah, then that is why it doesn't work for me.

Actually, I'm still having some fun with the game. My baby is now a child and is going to public school. I decided to put aside my social inadaptation and I'm trying to interact more with other sims...

	04-05-2005 19:21									#214
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns The Sims is marketed towards, to put it bluntly, girls. Girls are social creatures, hence the emphasis on social interaction.

What I want to know is exactly how many girls buy The Sims. I keep on hearing that it's got a huge female audience but have yet to see much evidence for that - not that I find it unbelievable, but it just seems to be taken as an article of faith.

	04-05-2005 20:30									#215
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I do know more guys than girls who plays (or have played) The Sims...

... but that doesn't say much since I know more guys than girls

	04-05-2005 22:13									#216
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns The Sims is marketed towards, to put it bluntly, girls.

Do you want to reveal something to the forum?

	05-05-2005 06:30									#217
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Yes. I didn't buy the game.

It is worth playing, but it didn't hold my interest for a great period of time. While better than Sims 1, beyond a certain point you get used to the changes and the only "goal" left is to get to the top of your respective career - a goal you will have long since achieved before getting sick of Sims 1.

	05-05-2005 08:24									#218
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns The Sims is marketed towards, to put it bluntly, girls. Girls are social creatures, hence the emphasis on social interaction.

he just sucks

even a guy with social anxiety such as myself can do well at that game. It's an easy game. It's easy to make enough friends to get to the top of your career path. Once I do that I say **** off to my friends . Kind of like in real life.

	05-05-2005 09:16									#219
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I play sims2 and I'm proud of it. I don't need to shoot creatures and men to prove I'm a man. .

I may reinstall this game. I'm in the mood for it again. It's a fun game, there are a few more things I'd like to try. I'm not really interested in the expansion packs. Just like I never bought the expansion packs for the first game. The expansion packs seem so frilly. The house is where the core gameplay goes in my opinion. Who cares about things like shopping or going to college. In fact in sims2, I never go to the store. . I did once just to see what it was like. I'm perfectly happy having my sims wear the same outfit day after day. I usually dress the hotter female sims in underwear or a swimsuit anyways. Or in her formal attire.

	05-05-2005 09:26									#220
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I usually dress in the same clothes everyday. It makes sense for my sims to be the same.

	05-05-2005 16:05									#221
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The x-pack ('s' soon to be added ) does give a little more to the house... but not that much

Why can't they make an x-pack that makes house building much much better

	05-05-2005 22:06									#222
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio Why can't they make an x-pack that makes house building much much better

Don't worry, they'll do it... Only it will be the 13th x-pack for the game, right after The Sims 2: Bloomingdale's and right before The Sims 2: I Have No D!ck And I Must Pee.

	05-05-2005 22:46									#223
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Yes. I didn't buy the game. It is worth playing, but it didn't hold my interest for a great period of time. While better than Sims 1, beyond a certain point you get used to the changes and the only "goal" left is to get to the top of your respective career - a goal you will have long since achieved before getting sick of Sims 1.

You admit playing it. You say it's for girls. What's left to prove?

	05-05-2005 22:51									#224
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike You admit playing it. You say it's for girls. What's left to prove?

If I play a game thats marketed toward 25 year olds, would that make me 25 years old? And if so, does anyone know where I can find such a game?

	05-05-2005 22:54									#225
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Don't be silly......playing games cannot change your age.

Just your gender.

	05-05-2005 23:45									#226
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark If I play a game thats marketed toward 25 year olds, would that make me 25 years old? And if so, does anyone know where I can find such a game?

Civ has a 3+ rating.

	06-05-2005 00:34									#227
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I'd like to see a 3 year old playing civ.

	06-05-2005 00:36									#228
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I was going to reinstall this game, but who knew I could fill up an 80 gig hard drive so fast. I uninstalled it to free up some room for KOTOR2. oh well.

The problem is I have many games that I still keep on my hard drive because I play them occasionally. Such as Fallout 1 and 2, fallout: tactics, Baldur's Gate (which I'm playing right now), and of course smac (though I play that regularly). Maybe I'll delete civ3, I never play that anymore.

	06-05-2005 02:08									#229
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Don't be silly......playing games cannot change your age. Just your gender.

So i played the Sims it would turn me into a middle aged woman

Of course then id want to play some online card game instead of the sims

	06-05-2005 02:25									#230
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Why what does that turn you into?

	06-05-2005 03:48									#231
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LOTM: Playing Sims would, if any change is possible, change you to a teenage girl really.

	06-05-2005 06:01									#232
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike You admit playing it. You say it's for girls. What's left to prove?

To you? Logic, perhaps.

Just because there is a set target demographic does not necessarily prevent someone not in said target demographic also consuming the product.

	06-05-2005 06:15									#233
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well, I wish I was a teenage girl then, at least I wouldn't think I wasted my money on this game...

	06-05-2005 06:58									#234
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I wish I was a teenage girl. I'd sit at home naked and play with myself all day. err wait, that's what I do anyways.

	06-05-2005 08:02									#235
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You sit at home naked and play with naked children all day?

	06-05-2005 08:58									#236
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no

	06-05-2005 21:29									#237
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Why what does that turn you into?

No, no, the point was that having been turned into a middle aged woman, I wouldnt play the Sims, since middle aged women dont for the most part play that game. The games that seem to be most popular with women my age, IIUC, are casual web based games, like card games on Yahoo, etc.

	06-05-2005 22:59									#238
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns To you? Logic, perhaps. Just because there is a set target demographic does not necessarily prevent someone not in said target demographic also consuming the product.

You're quite right!

Damn, arguing with girls is hard.

	06-05-2005 23:01									#239
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark No, no, the point was that having been turned into a middle aged woman, I wouldnt play the Sims, since middle aged women dont for the most part play that game. The games that seem to be most popular with women my age, IIUC, are casual web based games, like card games on Yahoo, etc.

Yeah, Sims players will inevitably gravitate towards those in time.