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Imran Siddiqui
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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:22
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claiming that international law is oh-so legitimate because it was made by colonial powers and bla bla. |
So you are saying that US's invasion of Iraq was totally legal?  Since you don't believe in the legitimacy of International Law that is?
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if 60% of Quebec voted to go it alone and leave Canada, international law would block them? |
Block them? No.. if Canada decided not to offer Quebec independance after 60% of Quebec voted to leave, international law would back Canada. Self-determination in this, the fourth stage of self-determination, means being able to have a voice in the government, not split yourself off because you are a petulant childish minority who can't play well with others. You only have a RIGHT to leave if the majority is oppressing you.
So, Kurdistan under Saddam's Iraq would have a right to seccession (if they did so). However, under the current Iraqi structure, they don't.
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because in this case the Supreme Court has ruled that Quebec can secede |
Actually it hasn't. It says that if Quebec's referendum passed, Canada has to consider it. HOWEVER, the rest of Canada must hold a referendum whether Quebec should be allowed to leave, and if that fails, then Quebec cannot seceed. After all, it isn't just affecting itself by leaving.
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Oh bad move, Imran. When a Quebec nationalist stirs, best to let them stir by themselves. Once you get into the argument you won't get out again. |
Eh... he can blow hot air all he likes. He knows he'll never get an independant country of the most annoying French people on Earth (they put the Parisians to shame).
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
time: 00:22
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I seem to recall the the Bahamas actually wanted to join Canada when they ended their British ties, and we turned them down. I'll see if I can't drag something up.
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Imran Siddiqui
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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:22
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So when a country enacts a new Constitution, it should get the approval of all its provinces? |
Um... you don't think that when a country gets a new Constitution it should get all administrative parts under it to agree? 
Or did you mean when a province enacts a new Constitution? In that case, no, they don't. Because the effect on other provinces in a country is minimal, at best. While secession would change the entire country in many different ways and have substantial effects on commerce, politics, etc, etc, of the entire state, tearing it asunder and breaking the 'contract'.
If you can't see the difference, you are more blind than I thought possible.
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
time: 00:22
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Hmmm...maybe I'm off base here. I think it was always the T&C that was flirting with joining Canada.
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Brent
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Places that should gain independence: Nunavut, Greenland, Faroe, Gotland, Quebec, maybe Bornholm and Tasmania. Nunavut and Greenland can unite. It would be cool if they joined the US and Inuktitut or whatever became a required course all over the country starting with elementary school. Labrador should be a province or territory independent from Newfoundland. Michigan should be two states. New England should be one state. New England's official language should be Klingon, Quenya, or Volapuk.
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27-09-2004 10:30
That it's ruled by Denmark today is just the result of many bizarre little coincidences.
Iceland didn't need an attractive name though. Most (?) of the early settlers didn't go there because they wanted to. They were banished there.
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