29-09-2004 04:53									#1
	Scenario players and makers: do You own ToT? Support Apolyton

well?

	29-09-2004 05:28									#2
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Guilty.

	29-09-2004 05:47									#3
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no, but working against it

	29-09-2004 06:04									#4
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Heresson, you are guilty of having a full mailbox.

	29-09-2004 06:12									#5
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OK. I deleted 5 Pms that I got from Heresson. The rest I will download later. Try again, thank You

	29-09-2004 11:36									#6
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Yes, I bought it a few month ago to try El Aurens, but I'm afraid I've never installed it (yet...): guilty, your honour...

But now, reading the last posts in other threads, I fear I might have to install it...

	29-09-2004 12:43									#7
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Strange. No-one wrote He does not have it at all yet.

	29-09-2004 12:53									#8
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I do own it too

	29-09-2004 13:50									#9
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I've had it for a long time, though I don't use it much.

	29-09-2004 14:32									#10
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Yes, I got it but it took me over a week to replace and alter all graphics to the point where they could be seen without centimeter thick glasses.

If it weren't for the clutter created by the bloody health bars, it might be a pretty good game.

	29-09-2004 16:18									#11
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Are ToT graphics THAT bad?
(some screanie, please?)

	29-09-2004 16:37									#12
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I own it, but I don't like it very much.

	29-09-2004 17:16									#13
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I own ToT!
Fairline's and catfish's unit graphics are the best around the web! Unfortunately there are only a few scenarios but these are some of the best I've ever played, like tecumseh's Red October and Boco's El Aurens!

	29-09-2004 17:51									#14
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I am crossing over to ToT territory - Maybe forever!

	29-09-2004 19:45									#15
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Shocking!
Still no-one without ToT!

	29-09-2004 21:51									#16
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I have it Heresson.

quote: Originally posted by AGRICOLA Yes, I got it but it took me over a week to replace and alter all graphics to the point where they could be seen without centimeter thick glasses. If it weren't for the clutter created by the bloody health bars, it might be a pretty good game.

Agricola - I just checked out the latest additions to Catfish's site and he has exactly what you were after - civ2 interface gfx

http://users.tpg.com.au/jpwbeest/JP_MiscGraphics.htm

A bit too late as you appear to have done it yourself. He also has excellent replacement terrain and units...

The health bar unit colours are unfortunately the only eyesore that remains, so I tend to include civ flags on ToT unit graphics to aid identification. I guess my use of divisional signs for the Market Garden units was a bit too obscure though..

	29-09-2004 21:55									#17
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Convert ye heathens, for Time comes to Test thee with fire and brimstone!

	29-09-2004 23:38									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson Shocking! Still no-one without ToT!

Well, those who said they'll buy it, still don't have it

	29-09-2004 23:56									#19
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Strange. Someone else but me lost his ToT.
Who was that?

	30-09-2004 04:07									#20
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quote: Originally posted by fairline Agricola - I just checked out the latest additions to Catfish's site and he has exactly what you were after - civ2 interface gfx http://users.tpg.com.au/jpwbeest/JP_MiscGraphics.htm

Because I use frames , you'll find it tough to navigate the rest of the site with that link. This is the link to the main page: http://users.tpg.com.au/jpwbeest/

quote: Originally posted by fairline The health bar unit colours are unfortunately the only eyesore that remains, so I tend to include civ flags on ToT unit graphics to aid identification. I guess my use of divisional signs for the Market Garden units was a bit too obscure though..

It sounds like it's the clutter caused by the large health bars that seems to bother him more. The health bars are probably my biggest gripe with ToT too – because everything else can be changed. As a result, I go for the minimalist approach with mine and strip off those unnecessary grey borders. That said, the health bar issue is more than offset by ToT's advantages.

The terrain graphics for Market-Garden I found a bit rough on the eyes – I ended up changing them. I can now more easily differentiate the units from the background. Maybe that's a problem for some people.

	30-09-2004 04:19									#21
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@ fairline

What I am using to play Market Garden are:

Units by fairline, the superb ones that come with the scen.
Terrain by Catfish, selecting the least cluttered icon for each type of terrain
All screens by Catfish, mainly his "old time" versions.
Health bars modified by me, thanks to the good advice of many people.

The TOT game screen looks uncluttered, crisp, light and and as good as any that I have seen. I have even resigned myself to the potato masher health bars now that the heads are distinctively blue and red. White edging helps to bring out the colors.

Everything is copacetic, thanks to advice from many individuals.

	30-09-2004 04:40									#22
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@ Catfish

I think we just had a cross post.

Thank you for the new link. You do indeed have a top quality site.

Your terrain icons transformed the game map beyond recognition. It really does look super. Absolutely marvelous work on your part.

quote: Originally posted by Catfish The terrain graphics for Market-Garden I found a bit rough on the eyes – I ended up changing them. I can now more easily differentiate the units from the background. Maybe that's a problem for some people.

Exactly, fairlines units are so well camouflaged that they got lost, especially in the forests. That's how realistic they are!

	01-10-2004 05:27									#23
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@Agricola:

Thanks for the compliment. The site's basically a place where I can dump some of my Civ2 files for public use – handy off-site backup, too. Great to see that you're able to replace ToT's graphics with something more suited to your tastes.

	09-10-2004 23:34									#24
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I bought myself ToT in the net. Funny thing is that only after buying it, I noticed that the guy selling it is from my hometown. Perhaps I'm buying my own ToT?
It'll take me some time to get the thing. But if there are no big differences, I think I may finish current projects in ToT already.

	09-10-2004 23:43									#25
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You'll want to replace the graphics....don't wait!

Welcome aboard!

	10-10-2004 08:36									#26
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Own it. I also use my ToT disc to play MGE...I hate that stupid intro movie that you have to skip by when you use the regular Civ disk.

By the way, does anyone else have problems getting the City.gif to work in ToT? It always just shows up like MGE and not ToT.

	10-10-2004 09:31									#27
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I get no movie with MGE, and i needed to get a no-cd patch because my disc is waay too scratched and makes the cd drive spin so fast it can be heard from a block away. (and of course, it's much more comfortable when you don't have to put a cd in every time)

I've also gotten it to give up on asking me the language i'm going to play it, as well.

	10-10-2004 16:14									#28
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quote: Originally posted by fairline I have it Heresson. Agricola - I just checked out the latest additions to Catfish's site and he has exactly what you were after - civ2 interface gfx http://users.tpg.com.au/jpwbeest/JP_MiscGraphics.htm A bit too late as you appear to have done it yourself. He also has excellent replacement terrain and units... The health bar unit colours are unfortunately the only eyesore that remains, so I tend to include civ flags on ToT unit graphics to aid identification. I guess my use of divisional signs for the Market Garden units was a bit too obscure though..

That Civ2 deluxe set for ToT looks pretty neat.

	26-10-2004 21:00									#29
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Hm, I bought myself a new (original) ToT.
It's a Polish version (can I download english one somewhere?).
How can I convert fw savs/scns to tot?
why isn't there a scn editor?

And a very annoying problem.
The game crushes. "civ2 caused an error in xiv2. exe..."
At first, it happened at a specific turn in my game.
Each time I reached it
So I started a new game.
But it happened again. To be precise, it happens each time a new city is built by me - or is found by a goody hut, as I learned. It makes the game impossible for me to continue.
What can be wrong?
Again, the game is original, unscratched I think, there was no problem during the set up...
uh. uh. uh.
The game seems a bit harder than normal civ2.
Or am I wrong? Anyway, I'm not used to it, so game at god level (the first one) didn't go very good for me, especially that I was locked on a not very fertile penisula near north pole.

	31-10-2004 00:29									#30
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Uh, I've just noticed I've written: do You won ToT instead of "Do You own ToT"
I hope nobody was mistaken, sorry!