30-09-2004 20:37									#61
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my city ended up second on the list for a new major league team. But in all honesty, I think they were just giving us lip service. I seriously doubt they have any intention of giving us a major league team. I still think we are too small. Our damn mayor is so intent in turning us into a "real" big city. I hate that. I miss the small city.

	30-09-2004 20:50									#62
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Well, Las Vegas is an entertainment town, and baseball is entertainment. However, why would a tourist go to a ballgame when everybody goes to Las Vegas for the Casinos?

Eventually, they need to give a couple of team to Mexican cities. Mexico City has 17 million people. Baja California is big too.

	30-09-2004 20:51									#63
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To freakin' hot in Vegas during the summer

	30-09-2004 20:59									#64
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Small Cities

If they had a team in Vegas, they would have to have interactive betting terminals at every sit.

+/- on the next pitch speed.
Odds on whether the batter would get a hit/walk/k/ground out. That would be sweet. You would need some damn good handicappers on that. Of course MLB would never go for it.

	30-09-2004 20:59									#65
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	30-09-2004 21:01									#66
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Well, Las Vegas is an entertainment town, and baseball is entertainment. However, why would a tourist go to a ballgame when everybody goes to Las Vegas for the Casinos? Eventually, they need to give a couple of team to Mexican cities. Mexico City has 17 million people. Baja California is big too.

the nascar races are a big hit though. But there's a major difference. There's only one nascar race a year. Not 152 baseball games (half of which are at home). Tourists flock to town to catch the nascar race. But just to watch another regular old baseball game? I can't see it.

	30-09-2004 21:03									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Japher To freakin' hot in Vegas during the summer

we have a minor league team (parent team is the dodgers). and an outdoor ballpark too . Many games are night games (though they start when its still light out). This allows you at least touch the metal seats. But it's still 100 degrees at night. Needless to say, bringing a towel is a necessity to put on the metal benches. I've only seen a few games- during the 4th of july game where they have a fireworks display after the game. I have never really gotten into seeing other games. who cares about baseball

	30-09-2004 21:08									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov "Washington Grays," after the Homestead Grays of the Negro Leagues. (seeing as the Senators did suck for most of their existence, after all, while the Grays did not... )

Washington Grays

honoring the Negro leagues

As for not sticking with your home town team, I hardly follow the Mets anymore. I cant conveniently go to a game, and they havent done anything interesting in years - they dont win, but they arent pathetic heartbreakers like certain other times either. And they tend to be not well covered even by NY media, fixated on the hated Yankees. So ive become an Orioles fan. OTOH, with an NL team in DC, it would be a chance to see the Mets again, and I just might go back to rooting for them.

	30-09-2004 21:08									#69
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You'd have to build a domed stadium in Vegas. Although I suppose Phoenix gets just as hot, and they play in an open air park.

	30-09-2004 21:40									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki You'd have to build a domed stadium in Vegas. Although I suppose Phoenix gets just as hot, and they play in an open air park.

...actually, the BOB has a retractable roof. So yes, they play in the open air sometimes.

	30-09-2004 22:04									#71
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quote: Amazing that for some reason everyone calls them the senators, now.

Yeah, I wonder about that as well. Seeing as they were only called the 'Senators' officially for like 20 years of their existance. The Nats is just a cool nickname .

quote: they havent done anything interesting in years

*cough* 2000. Usually when one says 'years' they usually mean more like 10 or so, but if you meant 3 years as not doing anything in 'years', then I apologize .

	30-09-2004 22:26									#72
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oh yeah the subway series - i drew a blank on that - perhaps cause it divided my home (QOTM is a yankee fan) and it was a busy year for me. And well, i just wasnt thinking.

	30-09-2004 22:29									#73
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	30-09-2004 22:44									#74
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why arent there any mexican teams? why are there canadian ones when i dont think canada is particularily baseball-concerned. i can see not having japanese teams in the MLB, but why not Puerto Rican? Mexican? Dominican? too much competition?

	30-09-2004 22:47									#75
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark oh yeah the subway series - i drew a blank on that - perhaps cause it divided my home (QOTM is a yankee fan) and it was a busy year for me. And well, i just wasnt thinking.

Well they also went to the LCS the year before that, when Kenny Rogers walked in the winning run in Game 6 .

	30-09-2004 22:50									#76
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I remember that vividly, Imran. I, evil Yankees fan that I am, was really, really rooting for the Mets so we could get a Subway Series. I knew it was over the moment Kenny Rogers entered the game.

Didn't Robin Ventura hit the "grand slam single" the night before, or am I mixing up the '99 playoffs with the '00 playoffs?

-Arrian

	30-09-2004 22:51									#77
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Not enough money in Mexico they can't afford a $30 ticket. They had to cheapen the price considerably when the spos played in Puerto Rico. It will happen eventually.

The Washington Johnsons In honor of Walter Johnson.

	30-09-2004 22:54									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer why arent there any mexican teams? why are there canadian ones when i dont think canada is particularily baseball-concerned. i can see not having japanese teams in the MLB, but why not Puerto Rican? Mexican? Dominican? too much competition?

Because baseball, just like all other North American pro sports, is a big-money game. To get a new franchise or buy an existing one and hope to relocate it would cost some local investor or consortium well over $100 million US. Then, you have to consider that you need a massive amount of local media support (read: lucrative television contracts) - that's one of the big reasons that Montreal lost its franchise. You also need to good, large stadium to make enough ticket and concession revenues, not to mention that tickets can't be all that cheap if you actually want to pay major league salaries. There just isn't enough money floating around south of the US border to do that in many places. In fact, about the only places that really spring to mind are the big few big Mexican cities (Mexico City, Monterrey, Guadalajara).

	30-09-2004 23:17									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Timexwatch And kudos to the Orioles organization for securing a sweet, sweet deal from MLB...

What kind of deal did they get?

	30-09-2004 23:22									#80
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quote: Damn, took one of you long enough.

Well, I'm not from TO, so give me a break, eh?

	30-09-2004 23:27									#81
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The Pork Barrel

	30-09-2004 23:29									#82
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	30-09-2004 23:31									#83
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Washington Bullets

	30-09-2004 23:33									#84
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quote: What kind of deal did they get?

MLB baseball promised him that they would make up any short fall in revenue below a certain point. They also promised him that if wants to sell the team they would guarantee a certain price. Good deal for Angelos but it could hurt the fans; if he decides to put a crappy team out there, he still gets paid.

Oh and MLB is going to help setup a sports network so that the Orioles don't get bumped from Comcast.

	30-09-2004 23:58									#85
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Peter Angelos assraped Bud Selig & Co., so far as I've heard.

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-Arrian

	30-09-2004 23:58									#86
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After hearing the arguments for the Grays as the name, I would be open to them naming them that, even though I still think Senators is the best name.

	01-10-2004 00:16									#87
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Eventually, they need to give a couple of team to Mexican cities. Mexico City has 17 million people. Baja California is big too.

I would have prefered they move the team to Monterrey or Puerto Rico, and I'm a local.

	01-10-2004 00:44									#88
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Operation Victory Washington

	01-10-2004 00:49									#89
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blah!

Operation win the world series...now that's clever

The Washington Posts!!

The Washington Washingtons!!!

The Washington Monkeys?

	01-10-2004 01:34									#90
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Monkey!!!

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