30-09-2004 03:12									#1
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This is an Unmoderated NES. There will be periodic updates of the map made by myself and periodic updates of the first post which are less frequent.

What you should do when selecting a nation is to copy their stats into your post and upgrade them as you work on your nation. For instance if you want to spend today upsizing your army tomorrow you can post your own stat update. I would reccomend posting such updates regularly to keep the world in the know of where your nation stands. I will periodically update the first post by replacing whatever stats are there with your new stats which you have posted.

Every day is the equivalent of one year and is essentially one turn, our starting year is 1862, and though we will be starting mid-1862 don't let this bother you. Just don't.

Reality Police will be on patrol. If any player finds another player doing something completely absurd, such as Prussia building tanks or the CSA bombing Pennsylvania with airplanes or even using more manpower than seems plausable they are encouraged to make a reality police post with a bold title claiming that it is such and complaining about the matter. It will then be decided by the players at large whether or not to accept the accused action.

Infrastructure and Tech. Advance speeds are something new to the Unmodded NES, a nation with poor infrastructure is limited in many ways, and a nation with poor infrastructure cannot in reality hope to get technological advances quickly. Technological Advance speeds save me from having to devise technological eras. A Fast Technological Advancing nation will have, for instance, the automobile for mass production by around 1896, an Average nation will have that by 1910 and a slow will not until far later. Technological breakthroughs are more believable from Faster nations.

Now that the rules are roughly established we will begin with the game.

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Homeland

The year is 1862 and nationalism is beginning to rise. In the Americas several southern states have declared themselves independent and have lately beaten McClellan back from Richmond, they pray for European recognition as Robert Lee prepares to invade the North for the first time. In Europe Otto von Bismarck has been made Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Prussia. In Italy unification is celebrated and in Russia terrorism is invented. It is a time when homelands are won and lost, a prayer of victory and a call for retreat. It is a fateful year with Ironclads and minie bullets heralding a new era of warfare in the Americas and with Bismarck preparing to revolutionise European diplomacy. It is a year that will decide the fates of Empires, and a year to fight for your homeland.

Nations

Prussia
Ruler:
Medium Army
Small Navy
Average Infrastructure
Average Technological Advances
Govt: Parlimentary Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Russia
Ruler:
Large Army
No Navy
Horrible Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Absolute Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Scandinavia
Ruler:
Medium Army
Small Navy
Poor Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Absolute Monarchy
MPP:
War:

German States
Ruler: Assorted States which are represented with one color but which are disunited
Medium Army
Small Navy
Poor Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Assorted
MPP:
War:

Austria
Ruler: Micha
Medium Army
Medium Navy
Average Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Parlimentary Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Ottoman Empire
Ruler:
Medium Army
Small Navy
Poor Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Monarchy
MPP:
War:

France
Ruler: bipolarbear
Medium Army
Medium Navy
Average Infrastructure
Average Technological Advances
Govt: Republic
MPP:
War:

Italy
Ruler:
Medium Army
Small Navy
Poor Infrastructure
Average Technological Advances
Govt: Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Britain
Ruler: Nuclear Master
Medium Army
Large Navy
Good Infrastructure
Average Technological Advances
Govt: Parlimentary Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Spain
Ruler:
Small Army
Small Navy
Average Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Parlimentary Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Portugal
Ruler:
Small Army
Medium Navy
Average Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Parlimentary Monarchy
MPP: Brazil
War:

United States of America
Ruler:
Large Army
Medium Navy
Good Infrastructure
Fast Technological Advances
Govt: Federal Republic
MPP:
War: CSA

Confederate States of America
Ruler: SKILORD
Medium Army
Small Navy
Good Infrastructure
Average Technological Advances
Govt: Confederate Republic
MPP:
War: USA

Mexico
Ruler:
Small Army
Small Navy
Poor Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Brazil
Ruler:
Medium Army
Small Navy
Average Infrastructure
Average Technological Advances
Govt: Monarchy
MPP: Portugal
War:

China
Ruler:
Medium Army
No Navy
Horrible Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Imperial Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Japan
Ruler:
Small Army
Small Navy
Average Infrastructure
Average Technological Advances
Govt: Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Afghanistan
Ruler:
Small Army
No Navy
Poor Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Zulu
Ruler:
Medium Army
No Navy
Poor Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Monarchy
MPP:
War:

Ethiopia
Ruler:
Small Army
Small Navy
Poor Infrastructure
Slow Technological Advances
Govt: Monarchy
MPP:
War:

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Those are all the nations you're going to get, I am aware that I could have been more minute but that would have been a waste of time.

Last edited by SKILORD on 01-10-2004 at 04:38

	30-09-2004 03:13									#2
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http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...81_homeland.JPG

Last edited by SKILORD on 04-10-2004 at 21:17

	30-09-2004 03:35									#3
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The map is giving me troubles right now, but should be up momenarily.

	30-09-2004 03:56									#4
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Bipolarbear lays claim to France!!!! or if someone else REALLY wnats France, I will settel for mexico without a struggle.

	30-09-2004 05:19									#5
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Alright, I had to use up some of my website's storage but it's up now.

Stupid map.

	30-09-2004 05:26									#6
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Now the Stupid thing is screwing up the thread. Dammit.

I'll play as the CSA unless someone else wants 'em.

	30-09-2004 06:12									#7
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I´ll be Austria

as for the map:
In 1862, Prussia had most of Western Germany! There was no land connection to Berlin, but still the land should be theirs. I mean it´s about 1/3 of their total area... :eeek:

Also why does Italy have Switzerland? Shouldn´t it be a "German Minor" instead? And last but not least, Austria´s eastern border should be Galizien, which is quite a bit more to the east...

	30-09-2004 06:35									#8
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There you go Micha.

Always criticizing me.

Its fixed.

	30-09-2004 06:39									#9
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quote: Originally posted by SKILORD There you go Micha. Always criticizing me. Its fixed.

ROFL

Sorry, man, wasn´t aware of that..

	30-09-2004 06:40									#10
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Don't worry about it, I'm glad to have it fixed.

	30-09-2004 20:06									#11
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Ingerland! Ingerland! Inglerland!

	30-09-2004 21:29									#12
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Since I guess it's 1863 now the CSA is proud to announce that Gen. Lee has spent the past months amassing his army for his invasion of the North (as opposed to RL in which he just rushed in).

The CSA will be offering freedmen positions in thge army, several batallions exist as of now but President Davis has recently recognised and accepted them in order to boost the army which is preparing to invade Maryland.

To: France
From: CSA

We ask you to grant us recognition and to establish an embassy in our nation.

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OOC:

Are you claiming England NM?

	01-10-2004 03:09									#13
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That is correct.

	01-10-2004 04:31									#14
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Alright then.

To: England
From: The CSA

Would you recognise us since we can defend ourselves?

	01-10-2004 05:13									#15
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To: CSA
From: England

You have not shown you can defend yourself yet. And, we will only recognize us if you make it worth our while.

	01-10-2004 09:02									#16
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To: England
From: CSA

The Confederate control of much of the world's cotton makes it very much a profitable venture for you to recognise us, convince the US to end their senseless war against our sovreignty and to end the blockade which now impedes both of our economies.

	01-10-2004 09:49									#17
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USA

US to Britain:

Don't take too much stock in the Rebel posturing. Not only are their "cotton threats" empty, what with the significant available world supply from Egypt, India, Australia and other countries, supporting them would close many markets down. Lending support to the Rebel ambitions will only make the war drag on, the result being the destruction of cash and food crops that have proven crucial to European stability, nourishment, and manufacturing endeavors. We obviously have a vested interest in ensuring the continued flow of products, and as soon as this conflict ends we can do that.
To the rebels, "sovereignty" consists of taking when they want and ignoring the rights of other states, despite their empty rhetoric, when it suits them. The southern states were raised with the aid of the Federal Government. Now they 'secede', and what do they immediately do? Seize federal property, fire upon federal forts. It is not the North who fired the first shot here. We tried until the end to reach a peaceful solution, but the Union must be preserved from this kind of chaos. What example will you set? Are you prepared to face India, or South Africa, seceding tomorrow and seizing all the ships and buildings and mines and railroads of the United Kingdom? The United States and Great Britain can be brothers, twin citadels of order, peace, and prosperity, or you can aid the ranks of Rebellion and dissolution.


The Federal garrisons in Indian Territory file out of their forts, march around, sing a few sings, just generally check things out. Everything seems good, so yes, the Indian Territory is still firmly in the Union.

Negotiations with a number of counties in the Northwest of Virgina are proceeding well; these counties want no part of RIchmond's rebellion. A bill has been introduced which will create a new state of "West Virginia", it is expected to be passed by congress and accepted by the state legislators from the region.


The Army of the Potomac and supporting regiments shuffles around, probably under some incompetent general, trying to ready themselves to meet the army of General Lee on the field of battle. A number of potential fortified postions have been firmly established, supply lines are in place, and scouts roam the countryside in orderly patrols. How well the Northern Soldiers actually do is yet ot be seen, their early performances have been mediocre at best.

The Navy on the other hand, facing far less resistence, continues to tighten their blockade on the South's shipping. Right now it's about as watertight as John Adams' corpse. Well, it'll get better! Anyway, its enought to discourage shipping, as the losses make most operations unprofitable.


The North tools up for war! Guns, food, ammunition, uniforms, railcars, boats, horses, carts, and men. If only we can find that paperwork. A sale of bonds and new taxes have been authorized to provide funding for the enlistment of new soldiers and the logistical aspects of the military. Which will be huge. Mine eyes have seen the coming of the Glory of the Lord...

	01-10-2004 10:02									#18
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We will not recognize the feudal kingdom of the CS. And if the United States of America needs it, we offer arms to your cause.

In other news, huge parades are going on throughout the British Empire. A few Stars and Bars have been seen to have been burning, but only a few. In general, this calms down the population for a bit.

	01-10-2004 10:05									#19
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I'm not sure how NPC orders will go.

To: Russia
From: Great Britain

We are interested in purchasing Alaska. What will you ask for it?

	01-10-2004 10:17									#20
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Aw to hell with it, I can't stand being a frenchmen anymore,! Viva La Mexico and all of that other stuff, they may suck more, but Mother Mexico calls to me!

	01-10-2004 10:19									#21
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Mexico would like to get a hand in on this Alaska business whilst the iron is still hot, we guarantee that we cna beat whatever Britain offers you.
Come on, we're Mexico how could you not trust us?

	01-10-2004 10:51									#22
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US to Britain :

We are gladdened by your wisdom. May this new Anglo-Amercan cooperation continue to develop. You would help us very much simply by not selling any goods to the Rebels that they could use for war purposes.


US to Mexico :

Greetings. In this changing era we hope to cultivate better relations between our countries than we have had in the past.

	01-10-2004 14:35									#23
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To: Mexico
From: The Confederacy

Alliance?

To: The Yankees
From: The Mighty CSA

I reccomend that you make peace before General Lee wipes out your nation, you have been beaten back and now you will be defeated.

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The CSA will be posting better stuff later.

	01-10-2004 15:38									#24
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The Kaiser, Franz Joseph I., and his wife Kaiserin Elisabeth, have today started their voyage through the different parts of the danubian monarchy.
This will hopefully stabilize the country, especially in Northern Italy. Mailand (Milano, Milan) still spawns armed rebel groups, and most Italian neighbours are acting hostile towards the Kaiser.

Meanwhile, an envoy makes his way to Prussia in order to see this man who overrides the Senate all alone and afterwards makes that very same Senate approve everything. It may be interesting to learn more about such capable men...
Austria-Hungary also wants to establish better relations to her northern neighbour, maybe even a military alliance?

Another envoy is on its way to Russia. There he will ask the Czar for a continuation of the "holy alliance" between their two countries.

Other than that, the people of the Danube Monarchy watch the events in Northern America carefully and with a mixture of interest and worry. While there´s almost no business for the Kaiser in this region, the current conflict may still influence the decision on establishing colonies...

Last edited by Micha on 02-10-2004 at 02:18

	01-10-2004 15:40									#25
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OOC:
Skilord, is it possible to change the map to a link instead of actually displaying it here? It´s terrible having to scroll horicontally for every single line you want to read...

thanks

	01-10-2004 23:40									#26
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There, I like it better too.

	02-10-2004 05:36									#27
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Wonderful!

Austria - Hungary

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Last edited by Micha on 02-10-2004 at 05:55

	02-10-2004 12:22									#28
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Mexico to Yankees, why should we ally with you over the rebels?

Mexico to the rebels see above

	02-10-2004 22:50									#29
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USA to Mexico :

Well, we're going to win. we're not asking you to attack the CS, just to not aid them with any war materiel.

	02-10-2004 23:11									#30
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Late 1863 :

The army of the Potomac marches to camp within 15 miles of the Army of Northern Virginia. The indecisive MClellan is finally replaced with a general who will join battle. A monumental fight between the armies finally appears imminent.

In the West river gunboats and an army under General Grant fights a grim battle to advance down the Mississippi. They have made little headway. General Sherman has been put in charge of making incursions into Tennessee.

New tonnage has been layed in the North's shipyards, but some of these ships are not ordinary. They have been given iron plates and gun turrets that extend up above the low floating hull. They are slow and their range is limited, but no gun affloat can do them much damage. Their few numbers have already proven of some us in targeting blockade-running merchanters and besieging coastal installations.

The navy is sieging Charleston, that most hated town by Northerners, Pensacola, Mobile, and New Orleans.