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why is erowid stupid? it's a pretty good site, all things considered.

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So a capitalist commune then? Taking the essentials of communism and using them in a capitalist state.


I support a government hands-off approach to the economy so I'm capitalist. There is nothing of communism in there. I'm machiavellian, not communist. So please stop abusing words.

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You are actively funding drug dealers and some of that money probably ends up in the pockets of terrorists.

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And all one source? That is so funny...

Also it wasn't debunked. It is solid established fact backed by the scientific community.

Why do you continue with that stupid erowid source?

Because it provides an excellent summary with direct links and quotes from the sources: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannab...yth_notes.shtml

It's not from one source, it's from 92 sources -- all reputable sources like medical journals.

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Why all the same source asher boy? That erowid site is just distorting the reality..

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You are actively funding drug dealers and some of that money probably ends up in the pockets of terrorists.

The obvious solution is to legalize it so people can buy it from the drug store, and then tax it so the money can enter the hands of the government-sponsored terrorists.

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The obvious solution is to legalize it so people can buy it from the drug store, and then tax it so the money can enter the hands of the government-sponsored terrorists.


Nope because that will collapse society.

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I support a government hands-off approach to the economy so I'm capitalist. There is nothing of communism in there. I'm machiavellian, not communist. So please stop abusing words.


You're taking communist (or should I say Soviet) social policy while keeping capitalist economics on top. Of course, the former would stifle and destroy the latter as we've seen countless times before. You are aware of course that the system you propose has been implimented most famously in Nazi Germany?

I'm not abusing words, I just understand them more than you .

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You are actively funding drug dealers and some of that money probably ends up in the pockets of terrorists.


Interesting chain of reasoning, provide me with examples and I'll probably listen. Then I'd say that it wouldn't be a problem if weed was legalised in the first place!!

Bare in mind also that most weed (bud and skunk that is) in the UK comes from Holland. Only Hash comes from Morrocco for the most part.

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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Why all the same source asher boy? That erowid site is just distorting the reality..

Here's the sources. 92 != 1:

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92. "The Drug Policy in the
Netherlands," Joint Report of the Ministry of Welfare, Health and
Cultural Affairs and the Ministry of Justice (1994).

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Nope because that will collapse society.


You fail to show how or even why!

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You're taking communist (or should I say Soviet) social policy while keeping capitalist economics on top. Of course, the former would stifle and destroy the latter as we've seen countless times before. You are aware of course that the system you propose has been implimented most famously in Nazi Germany?


Nope. Because it has nothing to do with communism.. or the Soviet system for that matter. I believe in law enforcement against law violaters as yourself. You don't understand words. You aren't very sure what you are talking about.

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Interesting chain of reasoning, provide me with examples and I'll probably listen. Then I'd say that it wouldn't be a problem if weed was legalised in the first place!!

Bare in mind also that most weed (bud and skunk that is) in the UK comes from Holland. Only Hash comes from Morrocco for the most part.


You will cause the collapse of society if weed is made legal.

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So here with have 92 reputable sources, a good argument and a greater number of posters with greater credibility, and Fez with "It wil collapse society".

Hmmm... tough call!

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Here's the sources. 92 != 1:


What about the sources backing my site?

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Mostly biased, refuted and uncited.

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You will cause the collapse of society if weed is made legal.

Gay marriage will cause the collapse of society if it is made legal.

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Mostly biased, refuted and uncited.


Nope. You should accept the facts.

Asher: Comparing homosexuality to marijuana use? You can stop smoking marijuana, you can't stop being gay.

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Asher: Comparing homosexuality to marijuana use? You can stop smoking marijuana, you can't stop being gay.

The point is both will destroy society, according to republicans.

The problem with that is both are always ridiculous claims, and cannot be supported.

You're a typical, thoughtless republican drone with a personal interest in your homosexual rights. If you weren't gay, I guarantee you you would be totally against homosexual rights for the same reason you're against marijuana legalization. You're just not that bright of a guy to be able to think of your own opinions.

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The point is both will destroy society, according to republicans.

The problem with that is both are always ridiculous claims, and cannot be supported.

You're a typical, thoughtless republican drone with a personal interest in your homosexual rights. If you weren't gay, I guarantee you you would be totally against homosexual rights for the same reason you're against marijuana legalization. You're just not that bright of a guy to be able to think of your own opinions.


Yak yak yak yak yak yak... so what makes weed users so special? What makes them like gay people? Nothing. They have nothing to do with homosexuality. So please don't mix things up... I'm not going to insult you but I'm not that bright of a guy? I don't smoke weed, so I'm much smarter then you. Far smarter.

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Ummm, you do realise that a third of modern philosophers have used weed at various points, as well as numerous artists and writers?

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Ummm, you do realise that a third of modern philosophers have used weed at various points, as well as numerous artists and writers?


Explains a 1/3 of the art of the 20th century is crap.

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Examples? (in proportion, from artists who smoked)

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Yak yak yak yak yak yak... so what makes weed users so special? What makes them like gay people? Nothing. They have nothing to do with homosexuality. So please don't mix things up... I'm not going to insult you but I'm not that bright of a guy? I don't smoke weed, so I'm much smarter then you. Far smarter.

No, it just shows that you're more obedient.

Bottoms.

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No, it just shows that you're more obedient.

Bottoms.


Where did that come from? Bottom? Who? You?

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Where did that come from? Bottom? Who? You?

Clearly you are smarter than me.

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Clearly you are smarter than me.


I'm versatile.. but speaking of that.. it isn't any of your business.

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I'm versatile.. but speaking of that.. it isn't any of your business.

I was just making a connection to your desire to be obedient and extrapolated it from there.

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I was just making a connection to your desire to be obedient and extrapolated it from there.


So you want me to go break into stores because you like being disobedient? I'm just saying follow the law.

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So you want me to go break into stores because you like being disobedient? I'm just saying follow the law.

I'm just saying being an independent thinker.

Don't blindly do as you're told, consider them suggestions and think for yourself. Unless, of course, you're in a company.

Many of the laws are simply stupid.

The law says you can't have sex with men in most states, would you obey that law if you were in one of those states?

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I'm just saying being an independent thinker.

Don't blindly do as you're told, consider them suggestions and think for yourself. Unless, of course, you're in a company.

Many of the laws are simply stupid.

The law says you can't have sex with men in most states, would you obey that law if you were in one of those states?


So smoking marijuana is being an independent thinker? And you are listening to this one site? I'm thinking for myself. Please don't say I don't. Again marijuana smoking has nothing to do with homosexuality. Can you just stop that?

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So smoking marijuana is being an independent thinker? And you are listening to this one site? I'm thinking for myself. Please don't say I don't.

The process of being an independent thinker is thinking about all laws, instead of blindly obeying them. The state has no business to mess around with what I do on my own time that affects no one else. The law does more harm than good.

And I'm not listening to that one site -- if you remember, it's really 92 sources.

The simple fact is, the vast majority of arguments against marijuana use are bullshit. You don't want to be an independent thinker, so you're incapable of doing some research. Hell, you won't even read what I quoted, because you want to deride the sources (which are absolutely valid).

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Again marijuana smoking has nothing to do with homosexuality. Can you just stop that?

You said you don't do it because it's against the law. It's a valid point, since both are victimless crimes and the state has no business being part of.

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The process of being an independent thinker is thinking about all laws, instead of blindly obeying them. The state has no business to mess around with what I do on my own time that affects no one else. The law does more harm than good.

And I'm not listening to that one site -- if you remember, it's really 92 sources.

The simple fact is, the vast majority of arguments against marijuana use are bullshit. You don't want to be an independent thinker, so you're incapable of doing some research. Hell, you won't even read what I quoted, because you want to deride the sources (which are absolutely valid).


Here we go again. The vast majority of arguments against marijuana dispute distortions you put up. You are incapable of doing research yourself. If you cost the tax payers a dime, it is the tax payers concern.

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You said you don't do it because it's against the law. It's a valid point, since both are victimless crimes and the state has no business being part of.


Homosexuality again has nothing to do with pot smoking. Stop with the comparsions.

 
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