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The Rusty Gamer is offline The Rusty Gamer
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I disagree about Deadlock & Deadlock 2. I really like them.

I've also had some enjoyable times with Fragile Allegiance. It had some blatant flaws which could've been easiy fixed but still some fun to be had.

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Star Wars Rebellion sucked if you tried to play the game well... which meant sabotaging the hell out of everything. It was fairly entertaining when you played stupid style, whiich would let the AI live past day 500 get you into big fleet battles that weren't one-sided.

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Star Trek: New Worlds...

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May 1999
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Birth of the Federation ::vomit::

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Civ1 sucks compared to more modern empire games. Especially Civ2

Adagio is offline Adagio

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Civ1 sucks compared to more modern empire games. Especially Civ2


I liked Civ1 more than Civ2...

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Jan 2002
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but Civ3 is best.....no?

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No.

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Superpower....
Civ3 (before PTW)


was superpower really that bad - concept sounded interesting.

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I liked Civ1 more than Civ2...




Civ1 is the prequel to Civ3.

Civ2 stands out all on its own.

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I liked Civ1 more than Civ2...


Same here.

Civ 2 just fine tuned a number of Civ characteristics.

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I don't get it. Sure Civ1 was original, and made the breakthrough, but Civ2 in absolute terms is simply a better game. We can dispute for days whether it does enough for a sequel, but there is simply no way you can say Civ1 is a better game.

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there is simply no way you can say Civ1 is a better game.


They aren't ... not necessarily anyway.

Note how they say "I like Civ more than Civ2", instead of "I think Civ is a better game than Civ2".

They are plenty of old games that I liked more than their sequels, even though the sequels were simply better games. Even if a few improvements are made, some things just aren't so much fun the second or third time around.

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there is simply no way you can say Civ1 is a better game.


They aren't ... not necessarily anyway.

Note how they say "I like Civ more than Civ2", instead of "I think Civ is a better game than Civ2".

They are plenty of old games that I liked more than their sequels, even though the sequels were simply better games. Even if a few improvements are made, some things just aren't so much fun the second or third time around.


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They are plenty of old games that I liked more than their sequels, even though the sequels were simply better games. Even if a few improvements are made, some things just aren't so much fun the second or third time around.


Totally agree. SimCity is a clear example. I'm talking about SimCity 2000 and its sequels, not about SC 2000 and the original (SC 2000 was sooo much better than the original).

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Totally agree. SimCity is a clear example. I'm talking about SimCity 2000 and its sequels, not about SC 2000 and the original (SC 2000 was sooo much better than the original).




You're talking about SimCity 2000, but not about SimCity 2000?

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He preferred the first sequel but the ones after SC2K were worse

I have to say that I certainly played SC2K far more than any of the others. It was challenging and playing from 1900 on you really saw the pace of change as new buildings become available. Call me cheesy but I really liked progressing into the totally futuristic too, like fusion plants and arcologies. SC3/4 never really gives me the same feeling of change.

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He preferred the first sequel but the ones after SC2K were worse



Thanks, Grumbold, that's what I meant. Try to spend more than a month away from your daily English practice and things start to get difficult...

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MoO3. Seriously.

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MOO3 is the Gigli of PC games.

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Does 'Gigli' stand for "really not too bad if you waited for the patch and weren't expecting an updated MoO2"?

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Does 'Gigli' stand for "really not too bad if you waited for the patch and weren't expecting an updated MoO2"?


I'm guessing not.

Father Beast is offline Father Beast
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The problem is, when a game gets bad press, it's just about impossible to find for download on the internet. I did a search for outpost, and found lots of scathing reviews, the demo for outpost 2, even one place would allow me to download the full game of outpost 2.

But Outpost itself was MIA.

I found Outpost 1.5 in a used game store, and bought it despite the bad press.

OK, it's not civ, but it doesn't suck, either.

Same goes for ascendancy.

Rise and Rule still sucks, though

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All I can say is Outpost was coaster of the year and ranks as one of the worst of all time in many poll and I thought it was worse than that.

Ascendancy had a lot of issues, such as a brain dead AI, but it was and still is playable. It had many first in 4x games and a loyal following, until Logicfactory pulled the plug on the board about two years ago.

Outpost2 at least was playable and I finished it, but not good enough to play again. It was one of the first to have a day and night cycle with headlights on trucks.

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For crying out loud.

Am I the only person on this planet that loves 1602 AD and 1503 AD????!!!!

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For crying out loud.

Am I the only person on this planet that loves 1602 AD and 1503 AD????!!!!


Yes. I have had a better time staring at my feces than playing that excuse for software.

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PTW.
Total anihilation (I thought the scrapping metal part was kinda interesting though...) I have 4 legit copies of the game. I havent bought one yet.

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Is TA an empire building game? No more so than C&C? It is at least a top 10 game for its genre.

 
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