07-10-2004 19:17									#1
	Name a game that has been released with 0 bugs Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

I'm curious

	07-10-2004 19:21									#2
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Bubble Bobble

	07-10-2004 19:29									#3
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Back in the Amiga days there were many of those games... but of recent games I can't

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I can honestly say I don't think I've ever encountered a bug in Wasteland. I'm not saying their aren't any, but I've never seen one.

	07-10-2004 20:08									#5
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There is probably no software with 0 bugs.

Plus bugs are in the eye of the beholder. We all have our own requirements and demands on software. "Bug" is very subjective without agreeing on what something should do.

	07-10-2004 20:10									#6
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Bugs are not subjective at all. A game feature that you don't agree with isn't a bug. A game feature that doesn't work properly or is broken is a bug.

	07-10-2004 20:26									#7
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Did Pong have any?

	07-10-2004 20:34									#8
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I think some console games could be considered bug free if we exclude it to only modern games, i.e. Fusion Frenzy
What about game balance is that a bug? EditIf we don't consider game balance a bug, then I don't remember any bugs in NCAA football 2004.

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	07-10-2004 20:45									#9
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About PC games, I don't think Bridge Builder had any bugs, but perhaps it's too simple to be considered.

	07-10-2004 21:04									#10
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Bugs are not subjective at all. A game feature that you don't agree with isn't a bug. A game feature that doesn't work properly or is broken is a bug.

They are subjective IF the feature is poorly specified yielding different interpretations of how something should work. But if everyone agrees on how something should work, and it doesnt, well then everyone agrees its a bug.

But whatever, its all semantics.

	07-10-2004 21:16									#11
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Theres no such thing as bugs, just 'undocumented features' ;O)

	07-10-2004 21:28									#12
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Theres no such thing as bugs, just 'undocumented features' ;O)

Well... what would you call a game where the game-box says it contains MP, but there were no MP option in the game?

	07-10-2004 22:48									#13
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Hey I'm pretty sure that Civ 3 did not have any bugs.

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quote: what would you call a game where the game-box says it contains MP, but there were no MP option in the game?

A documented unfeature?

	07-10-2004 23:15									#15
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Speedball2 - i played this so much that i should have seen a bug if there was one. Apart from breaking joysticks which couldn't really be considered a bug?

	08-10-2004 03:01									#16
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Bubble Bobble

Bollocks! Me and my friend had got really, really high playing it together and then one of us got stuck inside a wall in a really weird way. We had to reset.

	08-10-2004 03:05									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy Hey I'm pretty sure that Civ 3 did not have any bugs.

	08-10-2004 15:16									#18
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i'm trying to think of more complicated games now.

What about Civ1? - i never patched that on my amiga and it appeared to do all its maths correctly? ok tanks vs spears .......damn!

It is difficult to come up with some, especially from recent years as games got bigger.

	08-10-2004 16:50									#19
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Civ 1 had some cute bugs: for example, there was a way to wake up a settler and do terrain improvements in one turn that should have taken a lot longer.

I remember this quote from one of my computer science classes: "no non-trivial program is ever bug-free". It's a good excuse now that I'm working as a programmer: "what, you want me to write a trivial program?" .

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Solitaire, Minesweeper

	08-10-2004 17:19									#21
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quote: Originally posted by DaveV Civ 1 had some cute bugs: for example, there was a way to wake up a settler and do terrain improvements in one turn that should have taken a lot longer.

And IIRC you could wake a settler up on a boat and make him build a road on the water... didn't work as a bridge though

	08-10-2004 17:20									#22
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The early games such as M.U.L.E. and Archon.

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quote: Originally posted by Adagio And IIRC you could wake a settler up on a boat and make him build a road on the water... didn't work as a bridge though

I always thought that was an interesting feature...

	08-10-2004 19:41									#24
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I'm not saying that the bridge-building part was a bug, just that you couldn't use the bridge

	08-10-2004 21:15									#25
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Chess

	08-10-2004 22:07									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The early games such as M.U.L.E. and Archon.

never played M.U.L.E.

Archon was pretty bug free. But sometimes you could get some problems when hitting the corners of obstacles iirc.

	08-10-2004 22:57									#27
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M.U.L.E. is one of the best strategy games of all time/

ACK!

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski M.U.L.E. is one of the best strategy games of all time/ ACK!

Ditto, and this one really had no bugs. And we tried to break it and played 500+ hours of this one.

	09-10-2004 00:29									#29
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I also played it a lot without seeing any bugs.

	09-10-2004 01:10									#30
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Lemmings was bug-free.

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