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MrFun

King

of Iowa
Nov 2000
time: 23:21

09-10-2004 08:10

#61

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Comrade Tassadar

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Aug 2005
time: 05:21

09-10-2004 08:11

#62

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quote:
Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

I'm critiqueing! I just think Bush won.

quote:
I'm critiqueing! I just think Edwards OMFGMEGAPWND Cheney because Cheney is evil!

MrFun

King

of Iowa
Nov 2000
time: 23:21

09-10-2004 08:11

#63

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quote:
Originally posted by OzzyKP

Yes. I think he answered that question as well as he could considering it was quite loaded. Besides, there were huge dodges by both of them in many questions. Particularly as Diss noted, the deficit question I really wanted to hear how their numbers stacked up.

Both must be using "fuzzy math" because their numbers can't possibly compute. Both propose new spending, both promise tax cuts, and both want to cut the deficit in half. Ummm. Doesn't work. Gibson was great for really pressing that issue, asking both of them several times to put up some numbers, but both refused to do so. That should bother you more, Fun.

True . . . . . . you and Diss have a point there.

Koyaanisqatsi

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of Maine paupers.
May 1999
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:11

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quote:
Originally posted by Albert Speer
MrFun:

thats one of those questions that you get in school that ticks you off cause it should be easy but your mind can't think like that... it's one of those touchy-feely questions. you think Bush could just come up with 3 things (why in god's name did she pick 3? aint that a bit much?) that he considers mistakes and outline them in 2 minutes? yeah right. that was a bad question.

I thought it was an odd question, and not really a fair one, but given that the administration gives the distinct impression that it never makes a mistake, and given that the press mentions it semi-regularly, I wasn't that surprised it was asked. I was surprised that it made it to air, but not that it was one of the questions submitted by the audience.

Harry Tuttle

Prince

of the Hoople Heads
Mar 2003
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:12

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quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar

quote:
I'm critiqueing! I just think Edwards OMFGMEGAPWND Cheney because Cheney is evil!

Foul! I demand an inquiry. That second quote is not by me!

Comrade Tassadar

Settler

Aug 2005
time: 05:21

09-10-2004 08:12

#66

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quote:
Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

Foul! I demand an inquiry. That second quote is not by me!

They both have about as much credibility

Harry Tuttle

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Mar 2003
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:14

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quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
They both have about as much credibility

Oooh, dead stem cell babies will haunt your dreams.

Albert Speer

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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:14

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quote:
If a president cannot even admit to mistakes and learn from them, would you want him/her as president?

why don't you just get to the point and ask him if he thought the war in iraq was a mistake. that was the whole crux of the issue, the underlining reasoning that wasn't outright said... and bush addressed that. move on. it's not an issue to be hanged up about.

Comrade Tassadar

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Aug 2005
time: 05:21

09-10-2004 08:14

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quote:
Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

Oooh, dead stem cell babies will haunt your dreams.

DanS

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Kickball Capital of the World
Jan 1970
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:15

#70

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quote:
Both propose new spending, both promise tax cuts, and both want to cut the deficit in half. Ummm. Doesn't work.

Actually, it does make sense. Economic growth is healthy, which raises tax revenues even if you aren't "raising taxes." As long as you keep spending increases below about 7% a year (or an equal amount in tax cuts), the deficit will be reduced.

Albert Speer

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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:15

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and tass, your poll numbers are a joke, right?

MrFun

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Nov 2000
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09-10-2004 08:15

#72

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quote:
Originally posted by Albert Speer

why don't you just get to the point and ask him if he thought the war in iraq was a mistake. that was the whole crux of the issue, the underlining reasoning that wasn't outright said... and bush addressed that. move on. it's not an issue to be hanged up about.

I have the right to choose whatever I want to be ossessively hung up about.

ok . . . . . . . let's move on

Koyaanisqatsi

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May 1999
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:15

#73

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I think it wasn't just Iraq; I think it was the overall reality distortion field that surrounds the administration and makes them believe they're never wrong.

Comrade Tassadar

Settler

Aug 2005
time: 05:21

09-10-2004 08:16

#74

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quote:
Originally posted by Albert Speer
and tass, your poll numbers are a joke, right?

Um, no. You can go look at it yourself if you want

Dis

Emperor

Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:21

09-10-2004 08:17

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quote:
Originally posted by MrFun

If a president cannot even admit to mistakes and learn from them, would you want him/her as president?

do you really think Kerry could answer that question any better about Kerry's own mistakes?

Jaguar

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Montgomery County, MD
Apr 2000
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:18

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quote:
Originally posted by MrFun
Am I the only one obssessively annoyed by Bush's lack of a real answer to the final question?

The final question was a fairly partisan attack on Bush from the "unbiased" question selection process. It's not fair to force Bush to talk about his errors, and invite Kerry to talk about Bush's errors, as the very last few words of the debate. I would have been perfectly fine with it if Bush refused to answer the question.

MrFun

King

of Iowa
Nov 2000
time: 23:21

09-10-2004 08:19

#77

Put an end to popups!

maybe not, but then again, maybe so . . . . .

damn x-posting

Comrade Tassadar

Settler

Aug 2005
time: 05:21

09-10-2004 08:20

#78

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Fez, if you want a response ***CLEAN OUT YOUR INBOX!!***

monkspider

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Aug 2001
time: 23:21

09-10-2004 08:23

#79

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MSNBC Poll Results

Who Won?
Kerry 74%
Bush 26%
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/

Moral Hazard

King

of jack
Jul 1999
time: 01:21

09-10-2004 08:24

#80

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Those are all online polls right?

Harry Tuttle

Prince

of the Hoople Heads
Mar 2003
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:24

#81

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Kerry supportes polluting the web immediately after the debates?

Uh yeah. The Bush suporters are working late

JimmyCracksCorn

Settler

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Dec 2002
time: 05:21

09-10-2004 08:26

#82

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Clear Kerry victory on substance and performance.

"...want some wood?"

Harry Tuttle

Prince

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Mar 2003
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:27

#83

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quote:
Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
"...want some wood?"

See, playing to the Log Cabin Republicans...

Oh god, I'm sorry, I had to put that in.

Albert Speer

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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:29

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for Tass' numbers, how could fewer people say Bush won the debate this time around than last time? all the pundits are claiming he did a lot better.

Comrade Tassadar

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Aug 2005
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09-10-2004 08:31

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quote:
Originally posted by Albert Speer
for Tass' numbers, how could fewer people say Bush won the debate this time around than last time? all the pundits are claiming he did a lot better.

I don't know Speer, ask them.
Unless my agents from teh International Communist Conspiracy rigged the numbers....

Harry Tuttle

Prince

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Mar 2003
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:32

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quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
I don't know Speer, ask them.
Unless my agents from teh International Communist Conspiracy rigged the numbers....

www.communistsforkerry.com

Edan

Chieftain

Dec 2002
time: 00:21

09-10-2004 08:33

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quote:

"...want some wood?"

Please, there are children that read this forum!

Comrade Tassadar

Settler

Aug 2005
time: 05:21

09-10-2004 08:34

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quote:
Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

www.communistsforkerry.com

We created that website as a front so that liberals could counter saying "Its just a joke website"...If everyone thinks its a joke, no one is the wiser!