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The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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How about the second amendment?

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Ouch, Bush just nailed Kerry on the more porous borders argument. This keeps up Bush might get a B and Kerry a C-

WHAT? Kerry just said women make 76 cents for every $1 men make for doing the same work? That isn't true, the gap is largely the result of women who don't or can't do the same amount of work because of other choices, like having children.

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Both candidates are racists btw. Kerry with his "middle-eastern people" and Bush with his "non-english speaking people"


it's true. they are non-English speaking.

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How about the second amendment?


my thoughts exactly when I heard that.

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yeah talk about jobs and Bush... good idea PLATO


I think so. A non biased look at job creation over the last 13 months would show him very strong. In addition the recovery from the Clinton recession, even including 911, is one of the fastest ever.

Thanks for helping bring that out Sava!

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actually I'm getting sick of Bush calling Kerry the most liberal senator. He's starting to repeat himself like Kerry.

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I think so. A non biased look at job creation over the last 13 months would show him very strong. In addition the recovery from the Clinton recession, even including 911, is one of the fastest ever.

Thanks for helping bring that out Sava!


Didn't I just post that, Sava can't read again, maybe he should be a beta tester for Bush's no child left behind.

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Whammo, Kerry comes back with a good one in education.

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How are we going to pay for two active duty divisions John?

I smell a middle class tax raping if Kerry is elected.

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Kerry just said it, he wants our military to report to France.

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How are we going to pay for two active duty divisions John?

I smell a middle class tax raping if Kerry is elected.


he promised no new taxes for people making less than $200,000 a year.

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it's true. they are non-English speaking.


Sure, it might be true. What qualification is being able to speak english anyway? You dont have an official language...

Both candidates used those titles in negative sense. Its a clearly a hidden message. They think having Middle-Eastern background or not speaking english is in someway suspicious or even a threat to the US.

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he promised no new taxes for people making less than $200,000 a year.


Yeah...we can count on honest John not to change his position.

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truth standard?

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Kerry's a gunner!!

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Kerry, "I'm a hunter, windsurfer, hockey player, NASA astronaut, sky diver, bike rider, SUPERMAN.

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Sure, it might be true. What qualification is being able to speak english anyway? You dont have an official language...

Both candidates used those titles in negative sense. Its a clearly a hidden message. They think having Middle-Eastern background or not speaking english is in someway suspicious or even a threat to the US.


Bush was talking about how the American children of non-english speaking parents are educationally disadvantaged -- which is true -- and how the reforms are helping those children.

Where is the "suspicion" or "threat" in that?

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truth standard?


I guess that is the new name for "global test".

Did anyone notice the thumb gesture from Kerry? It's just like what Clinton would do when he was making a point.

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Kerry is distorting on assault weapons...again.

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hmmm. invoking the holy name of Bill Clinton.

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Kerry, "I'm a hunter, windsurfer, hockey player, NASA astronaut, sky diver, bike rider, SUPERMAN.


and a law enforcement officer. I never considered lawyers to be part of law enforcement. even if they are DA's.

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Affirmative action for women?

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Affirmative action for women?


they already are a majority in our nation's colleges now.

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OH NO, Bush is smirking.

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Kerry lying about Civil rights leadership.

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They zinged each other again on Iraq but Bush scored a nice, albeit illogical, point with Kerry failing his own "global test".

And now Kerry just nailed Bush on the assault guns issue... Man, pretty good debate... Wtf happened to Bush in the first debate? Makes me wonder if he was wired and they couldn't get their act together. Wouldn't that be ironic? The debate he got slaughtered was the one he cheated. Now that's incompetence!

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Bush: Equal educational opportunity.

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OH NO, Bush is smirking.


I don't like that smirk.

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Maybe it's just me, but Bush sounded like he was on the verge of crying when asked about meeting with black civil rights leadership.

 
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