29-10-2004 11:41									#121
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Good idea in theory, but all my spare parts have been turned into computers for other people in my family. I do have two working, net-connected computers at home with a third about to replace my sister's old one. The problem is I am hardly ever home.

Orders for Jamski's fleet have been issued. To glory!

	29-10-2004 13:55									#122
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That's why I mainly post at work

	29-10-2004 13:58									#123
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What's this "work" thing?

	29-10-2004 14:02									#124
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It's a place where you get paid for posting

	29-10-2004 14:05									#125
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Neat, where can I sign up? I could make a million!

	29-10-2004 15:28									#126
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You are too young to sign-up just yet

Graduate first!

	29-10-2004 21:52									#127
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Turn 4 - Four way times two


The Pralor automated units (Spaced Cowboy) have enlisted another Kazon faction to their aid. It was the Kazon Pommar faction led by First Maje Minnis Theben. Now we have a four-way alliance attacking three Kassiopeia’s Arrays. Someone is going to get out of this strange deal empty-handed.

Well, the Pralors didn’t really need so huge armada for such an easy prey like those undefended Kassiopeia’s Arrays. They could have occupied them on their own, particularly since once again their allies failed to agree on an allied order of battle, which could have affected the outcome of the battle if the battle had actually been fought. SC’s so called allies also failed to agree on a distribution of captured bases, so the three former Kassiopeia’s Arrays will be distributed as follows:

GeoModder gets one base.
Spaced Cowboy gets one base.
Sparrowhawk gets one base.
Theben sent his orders last so he doesn’t get a single base.

They captured and divided up the bases, but found no trace of either Federation technology or any member of Voyager crew. No wonder they didn’t find any ship there. Having exhausted the stock of her shields, it was obvious Captain Kassiopeia Janeway would be on the move. But who would be her target?


*******


Her target and the target of another four-way alliance is Spaced Cowboy. Indeed, Captain Janeway has been trying real hard to form a counter-alliance, one that would provide security for her travel through the quadrant.

Medical experiments showed that Klingon DNA was resistant to terrible phage, so the Vidiians joined Kassiopeia’s alliance in exchange for some of B’Elanna Torres’s genetic material.

One member of Kassiopeia’s crew, Ensign Seska married First Maje Joncha Culluh of the Kazon Nistrim sect and the Kazon allied with Voyager.

The ruined Kazon Ogla sect saw only hope of survival in the alliance.

But Spaced Cowboy left significant force home. He failed to instruct them on their order of battle however, so they decided to use the order of battle of his attacking fleet.


Battle No.1: Skanky Burns, joncha, Kassiopeia and Jamski attack Spaced Cowboy
Skanky Burns: 5FD, 5TD, 5FB, 4TB, OoB: TTL-FLF, back off, normal
Joncha: 6LD, 4FD, 5TD, 1FB, 1TB, OoB: TTL-FLF, back off, normal
Kassiopeia: 6LB, 5FB, 5TB, OoB: TTL-FLF, back off, normal
Jamski: 3LB, OoB: TTL-FLF, back off, normal
Allied total: 6LD, 9FD, 10TD, 9LB, 11FB, 10TB, TTL-FLF, back off, normal
Spaced Cowboy: 4LD, 3FD, 2TD, 3LB, 3FB, 5TB, 1LC, OoB: FLT-FLT, normal, normal


70T – 42F – Spaced Cowboy takes 28 hits
140T – 13.5L – Spaced Cowboy takes 126 hits
25.5L – 46T – Allies take 20 hits


Skanky Burns loses 3 torpedo battleships and his fourth torpedo battleship is damaged. On the other hand, Spaced Cowboy’s defending fleet is destroyed and the allies capture all of his bases. The bases are distributed in the following manner:

Skanky Burns gets 3 bases because he sent his orders first;
Joncha gets 2 bases;
Kassiopeia gets 2 bases;
Jamski gets 2 bases.

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Player Name
 
Bases
 
BPs
 
Tonnage
 
Frigates(1)
 
Cruisers(2)
 
Battleships(3)
 
Dreadnaughts(4)
 
Titans(5)
 



 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 



 Smiley
 
3(4)
 
23
 
66/2/3
 
-
 
2
 
3
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
22
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



DrSpike
 
4
 
26
 
17/15/22
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
1
 
-
 
-
 
5
 
5
 
2
 
-
 
-
 
4
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



GeoModder
 
4(2)
 
24
 
24/28/24
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
2
 
-
 
4
 
4
 
4
 
3
 
3
 
3
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



Jamski
 
(2)
 
4
 
9/-/-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
3
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



joncha
 
4(2)
 
24
 
24/19/23
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
1
 
1
 
6
 
4
 
5
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



Kassiopeia
 
(2)
 
4
 
18/15/15
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
6
 
5
 
5
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



Skanky Burns
 
4(3)
 
26
 
-/35/23[4]
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
5
 
1[4]
 
-
 
5
 
5
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



Spaced Cowboy
 
(1)
 
2
 
8/8/8
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
2
 
2
 
2
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



Sparrowhawk
 
4(1)
 
23
 
24/32/14
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
8
 
2
 
6
 
2
 
2
 
-
 
-
 
-
 



Theben
 
5(3)
 
31
 
32/12/12
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
1
 
-
 
-
 
10
 
-
 
4
 
-
 
3
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 

Last edited by Ljube on 30-10-2004 at 22:56

	29-10-2004 22:02									#128
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Huzzah!

	29-10-2004 22:43									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia That's why I have my trusty old P2 standing by with a working network card in case of emergencies. Never shall I be left without my rightful does of Polytude due to hardware concerns.

Me too. It also has Win98 in case I can't get a game working in Win2K.

	29-10-2004 23:56									#130
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Ouch, painful.

	30-10-2004 00:32									#131
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YAY! YAY!

I'm so glad I let Skanky use my fleet I'll just take them back now

Orders sent!

-Jam

	30-10-2004 01:27									#132
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Mmm, fleets were not allowed to be used/transfered by allies anymore. Doesn't this make at least Jam's participation invalid?

	30-10-2004 01:36									#133
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This game is getting really ****ed up. I mean, a four way alliance to attack me, isn't that a bit excess? It's not like I have a huge armada or anything.

	30-10-2004 01:43									#134
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing a xenophobia version, AKA no alliances.

	30-10-2004 02:12									#135
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That might be a good idea for a change... or maybe an upper limit on alliance sizes? Although I want to see how this one plays out, first.

	30-10-2004 03:26									#136
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Sure is a lot of alliances here- but there can only be one!

	30-10-2004 03:46									#137
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Mmm, fleets were not allowed to be used/transfered by allies anymore. Doesn't this make at least Jam's participation invalid?

Fleets weren't transferred in this instance. Jamski relinquished command of his fleet for one turn. Skanky sent orders for Jamski fleet as a separate entity and Jamski gained 2 bases. He resumed the overall command of his fleet this turn and sent valid orders.

	30-10-2004 04:15									#138
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I agree with Geo.......transferring for any reason sets a poor precedent.

	30-10-2004 04:18									#139
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I had a fleet and no bases. Skanky was doing an attack, I wanted to use the same OoB, so I put them under his command.

Yes?

That way I had a chance of making some gains.

-Jam

	30-10-2004 04:28									#140
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I should note that during the last game, the Grand Alliance frequently sent in attack orders with notes stating that if an OOB conflicted with someone else's, theirs should be used.

	30-10-2004 05:12									#141
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike I agree with Geo.......transferring for any reason sets a poor precedent.

It's not transferring Doc. I would have never allowed transferring or anything else in contradiction of the rules for that matter.

Look. The same would have been accomplished if Jam bothered to negotiate an alliance with Skanky and then sent orders in accordance with the outcome of his negotiations. He simply skipped a few stages and turned over the command of his fleet to Skanky Burns. Nothing was transferred here. Jamski got 2 bases as a reward and he still has his ships to command.

	30-10-2004 14:37									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I had a fleet and no bases. Skanky was doing an attack, I wanted to use the same OoB, so I put them under his command. Yes? That way I had a chance of making some gains. -Jam

Ok, sounds fine.

	30-10-2004 19:20									#143
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Heh, its not like my puny fleet was that much help

-Jam

	30-10-2004 19:38									#144
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It was rather puny.

	30-10-2004 20:30									#145
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My torpedo dreadnaughts seem to have gone on a holiday. I'd like them back, please.

	31-10-2004 05:19									#146
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Hmmm, Skanky attacked jamski, and jamski's attacked joncha...

looks like a loyal trustworthy group you got there. Yeah, you better get them ships back from Skanky!


Ljube,
We would like to know who has Spaced's original bases. It should be common knowledge, don't you think?

	31-10-2004 05:21									#147
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Why should that matter?

	31-10-2004 05:29									#148
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Gee, who ever heard of people attacking each other before drawing up alliances. As everyone knows, the only alliances that work are those where everyone has a history of cooperation. See America, England and France in WWII.

	31-10-2004 05:31									#149
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I'm just thinking that if I'm jamski or Kassi, knowing your 'allies' OoB would be a good way of getting several bases easy.

	31-10-2004 05:33									#150
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quote: Originally posted by joncha Why should that matter?

Are you referring to the bases?