31-10-2004 06:55									#151
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quote: Originally posted by Theben Ljube, We would like to know who has Spaced's original bases. It should be common knowledge, don't you think?

Better ask Skanky and comp cause they divided them up, not me

	31-10-2004 06:56									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Theben I'm just thinking that if I'm jamski or Kassi, knowing your 'allies' OoB would be a good way of getting several bases easy.

Trust me, it's the best way. Once I captured 13 bases this way

	31-10-2004 08:28									#153
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I assume that Theben is wondering if Spaced gets back his original "Self Built" bases that he would be able to build ships again, but I think this was dealt with last game when Spike tried to do the same thing and was unable to reclaim his bases and consider them "self-built".

The question seems moot.

* Sparrowhawk

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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk I assume that Theben is wondering if Spaced gets back his original "Self Built" bases that he would be able to build ships again, but I think this was dealt with last game when Spike tried to do the same thing and was unable to reclaim his bases and consider them "self-built". The question seems moot. * Sparrowhawk

Ah yes, quite right. I was under the impression that re-capturing your bases would allow one to get 'their' bases back. I guess it's once captured, always captured.

I had some more n00b questions, but they've escaped me. Damn alcohol.

	31-10-2004 09:29									#155
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quote: Once I captured 13 bases this way

And have you managed to find another ally since?

	31-10-2004 13:37									#156
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quote: Originally posted by Ljube-ljcvetko quote: Originally posted by Theben Ljube, We would like to know who has Spaced's original bases. It should be common knowledge, don't you think? Better ask Skanky and comp cause they divided them up, not me

The bases have since been repainted, and the log data was "lost" in an unfortunate weapons testing accident.
Such is life.

	31-10-2004 13:51									#157
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk I assume that Theben is wondering if Spaced gets back his original "Self Built" bases that he would be able to build ships again, but I think this was dealt with last game when Spike tried to do the same thing and was unable to reclaim his bases and consider them "self-built". The question seems moot. * Sparrowhawk

Yes, SC has to suffer like I did.

Of course my galactic overlord blood was so pure I won anyway. Can he do the same?

	31-10-2004 14:27									#158
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Sent.

	31-10-2004 22:27									#159
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	31-10-2004 22:32									#160
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Sent ages ago...

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	31-10-2004 22:38									#161
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Yes, SC has to suffer like I did. Of course my galactic overlord blood was so pure I won anyway. Can he do the same?

Situation was/is a little bit different.

	01-11-2004 00:00									#162
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Sent ages ago... -Jam

Weekend + holiday rules.

	01-11-2004 00:30									#163
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orders sent.

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Sent.

	01-11-2004 01:39									#165
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Sent!

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	01-11-2004 01:43									#166
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And now we wait.

	01-11-2004 01:59									#167
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Sent.

	01-11-2004 06:38									#168
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quote: Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy Situation was/is a little bit different.

Still, can you do the same?

	01-11-2004 07:25									#169
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No word that any of Geomodder, Skanky or Spaced have sent orders...are we waiting on them or is it up to Ljube to process the turn now?

(not that I am rushing anyone, I was slow to send in my orders.....just being curious)

* Sparrowhawk

	01-11-2004 07:57									#170
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Sent ages ago... -Jam

	01-11-2004 09:23									#171
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Even tho it were days past, sent

	01-11-2004 14:06									#172
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk No word that any of Geomodder, Skanky or Spaced have sent orders...are we waiting on them or is it up to Ljube to process the turn now? (not that I am rushing anyone, I was slow to send in my orders.....just being curious) * Sparrowhawk

It's up to me. Will do it later today.

	01-11-2004 18:21									#173
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quote: Sent ages ago... -Geo

	01-11-2004 19:30									#174
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Turn 5 - Crumbling alliances


The two four way alliances from the last turn quickly broke up as expected over the issue what to do next.

Captain Kassiopeia Janeway wanted to proceed with her journey towards the alpha quadrant and could no longer commit her resources to any alliance. Skanky Burns of the Vidiians requested more of the Klingon DNA for further analysis and when his request was denied he refused to cooperate any more. The Kazon Ogla led by young Rizik III Jamski, having captured some planets decided it was time to assume a low profile and bowed out of the alliance.

This left only Kazon Nistrim and their First Maje Joncha Culluh eager to keep on attacking. He tried to persuade Captain Janeway to join him, but she stood firm. Eventually, when her fleet stumbled upon a Kazon Pommar patrol and was attacked, with her flagship Voyager damaged, she understood she needed to preserve her alliance with at least one Kazon sect if she hoped to pass through this part of the delta quadrant alive.

Captain Kassiopeia Janeway proposed an all out allied attack on Kazon Pommar positions in a bid to eliminate the powerful sect and First Maje Joncha Culluh in his unsatisfying lust for power accepted the plan enthusiastically. Captain Janeway also sent Mr. Neelix on an intelligence gathering mission to assess Theben’s strengths and weaknesses.

When Mr. Neelix didn’t return, she wanted to call off the assault, but Joncha convinced her to press on. She issued the orders to attack, but at that moment her main command computers malfunctioned and the orders never reached her fleet. She learned later that Mr. Neelix was captured by a Pralor AU patrol and that all Voyager security codes were squeezed out of him under torture by SC himself. The Pralor AUs used these codes to disable Voyager’s command and control computers.

Joncha continued the attack alone, but ran into a shield and lost his torpedo battleship. The blast also damaged one of his torpedo dreadnaughts.


*******


Joncha sent his entire fleet but ran into a shield. Will his fleet return home now? Not likely. The Pralor automated units led by SC that have suffered a terrible setback last turn are coming back in play as they captured Joncha’s 6 undefended bases. Joncha’s fleet remains baseless.

According to an agreement with Sparrowhawk, these bases are split between Spaced Cowboy and Sparrowhawk 3 each.


*******


And Pralor allies in the previous turn, Kazon Relora sect led by First Maje Haron Sparrowhawk also tried to catch off guard a member of the opposite alliance from the last turn. They attacked the Vidiians, but did that with a meagre force. Still they managed to hurt them a lot, probably because the Vidiians were so surprised by this attack that they failed to mount an organised response.


Battle No.1: Sparrowhawk attacks Skanky Burns
Sparrowhawk: 2LD, 2FD, 2TD, 4FB, OoB: FLF-TLT, close in, spread out
Skanky Burns: 5FB, 2TB, 5FD, 11TD, OoB: No order of battle received. Random order of battle: LFT-LFT


20F – 0L – Skanky Burns takes 20 hits
32L – 70F – Sparrowhawk takes 38 hits
40F – 25T – Skanky Burns takes 15 hits


Sparrowhawk loses 4 carrier battleships, one carrier dreadnaught and his last carrier dreadnaught is badly damaged.
Skanky Burns loses all five carrier battleships and one of his carrier dreadnaughts is damaged critically.
The battle continues.


16T – 0L – Skanky Burns takes 16 hits
32L – 40F – Sparrowhawk takes 8 hits
8T – 25T Sparrowhawk takes 17 hits


Skanky Burns successfully defends his bases. He loses 2 additional carrier dreadnaughts.
Sparrowhawk loses his last carrier dreadnaught and also loses two laser dreadnaughts and one of his torpedo dreadnaughts is damaged. He must withdraw.


*******


On the side note, the species 8472 also tried to get Kazon Nistrim bases, but when they arrived they found Pralor automated units there. Since species 8472 are very calculated and they haven’t planned on attacking the Pralor AUs, they left SC and his fleet alone and returned home.

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Dreadnaughts(4)
 
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 Smiley
 
3(4)
 
23
 
89/2/3
 
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2
 
3
 
1
 
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29
 
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DrSpike
 
4
 
46
 
17/15/22
 
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1
 
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5
 
5
 
2
 
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4
 
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GeoModder
 
5(2)
 
37
 
24/28/24
 
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-
 
-
 
-
 
2
 
-
 
4
 
4
 
4
 
3
 
3
 
3
 
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Jamski
 
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8
 
9/-/-
 
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3
 
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joncha
 
-
 
-
 
28/31/24[2]
 
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1
 
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7
 
7
 
6[2]
 
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Kassiopeia
 
(2)
 
8
 
18/15/15
 
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-
 
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-
 
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6
 
5
 
5
 
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Skanky Burns
 
4(3)
 
27
 
-/8[3]/50
 
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2
 
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2[3]
 
11
 
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Spaced Cowboy
 
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10
 
8/8/8
 
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2
 
2
 
2
 
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Sparrowhawk
 
4(4)
 
31
 
16/20/22[1]
 
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Theben
 
5(3)
 
62
 
32/12/12
 
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1
 
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10
 
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4
 
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3
 
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-
 

	02-11-2004 03:58									#175
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	02-11-2004 04:09									#176
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Summary of the previous turn


Joncha and Kassiopeia attacked Theben. Spaced Cowboy sent a spy against Kassiopeia and Theben raised shields, so only joncha suffered the 12 hit penalty. His home bases were captured by Spaced Cowboy, so joncha remained baseless.

Smiley also wanted to attack joncha, but found Spaced Cowboy there and called off the attack.

Also, Sparrowhawk attacked Skanky Burns, but lost the battle and most of his attacking fleet.

Last edited by Ljube on 02-11-2004 at 04:24

	02-11-2004 04:13									#177
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Orders for round 5 sent!

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	02-11-2004 05:36									#178
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You sure?

Last edited by GeoModder on 02-11-2004 at 05:44

	02-11-2004 14:07									#179
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A number of players asked the same question: Can baseless fleets be attacked?

Baseless players are just like any other player, except they have no bases, so there isn't really any logical reason to attack them. So, you can attack them, but if they attack, you'll be getting where they used to be and finding out they are gone. You can only make sure they stay where they are if you spy them.

	02-11-2004 14:22									#180
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Yeah, come and attack me! I'm waiting for you!