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Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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I could never do that and not be visibly aroused.

This was the very reason (the very fear) that holded me to do it for years. As we were still in the swimming pool (in swimsuits), I warned them that it was my first time in a sauna, and that I could get a hardon.
Guess what? It did happen. Nobody cared. A few minutes later, it faded. Nobody cared as well. And end of story. This inhibition I had for years disappeared by itself in a matter of minutes, wholly naturally.

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and what's the point of saunas anyways? what does it do for you? I don't get it. I've never been in one as you can tell. I always figured it was something rich people did.

Well, if you consider 4€ for two hours of swimming-pool + sauna is only affordable to the rich, then my student friends and I are filthy rich

Saunas provide a very comfortable feeling of warmth. One shouldn't stay too long in a sauna, as too much warmth can be dangerous, but it is really relaxing. Healthy too

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that's bordering on kidde porn. You can't have kids in there!

funny, in the U.S. some 13 your old kid was charged with child porn for putting naked pictures of himself on the internet

the fact is in the U.S., nudity will always = sex. That's the way I feel about it.

Why would you purposely desensitize yourself to nudity? It just takes longer to get turned on enough to commence ****ing. What does turn europeans on?

As for saunas, it gets hot enough where I live in the summer. Why go to a sauna when you can just stand outside?

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Why would you purposely desensitize yourself to nudity? It just takes longer to get turned on enough to commence ****ing. What does turn europeans on?

Because I consider nudity is something comfortable, and that I shouldn't avoid this comfort when I'm in society? In a society that accepts nudity, I could for example bathe naked (in a pool, in the sea...), which completely pwns bathing with a swimsuit. Or I could for example sleep in the nude in some sleeping wagon, which also totally pwns sleeping clothed.

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you had an erection in sauna? you're the MAN! I've never seen that happening.. though I'm sure it has happened to people in here as well. Tough thing to get over I'm sure. It's just as bad thinking about it, just think about situation, I was with this girl I like a little in the school party just two weeks ago, mixed sauna, both naked and she was sitting next to me, I have already had like 8 beers so I was definitely feeling little warm for her already. I admit, tohugh sauna is not sexual, I had to push the idea of her away and try to ignore her the best I could. Because I didn't want to have an erection . Would have been kind of .. intrusive. So I didn't!

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As for saunas, it gets hot enough where I live in the summer. Why go to a sauna when you can just stand outside?

Wow, I didn't know you had 90-100C and dry air in the summer in Las Vegas. I know understand why you love air conditioning so much

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"As for saunas, it gets hot enough where I live in the summer. Why go to a sauna when you can just stand outside?"

Different thing. I can't stand 100F weathers. I just can't. It's nto the same thing or feeling. And it doesnt' provide you the feeling and benefits sauna will.

" It just takes longer to get turned on enough to commence ****ing. What does turn europeans on?"

When I want to have sex with someone and nudity does turn me on too. But I prefer little clothing than plain nude . I like boobies like you do. But in sauna it's not about boobies, it's about something else. If you go to church and you see a pretty girl, do you get an erection? It's just a place where it's nto sexual, simple. And you're supposed to go there with bunch of dudes, so who cares if you're not up to fast screwing around. In mixed saunas it's just a bit different, because sure you can appreciate if some pretty girl comes there naked. Then you push the idea away and treat her as a person with brains. When you're out of sauna, then you treat her as sexual object of your lust .

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Spiffor, oh yeah! We always swim naked in summer cabins in the lakes.. it's the best too.. It feels funny when your willie is in 100% contact with the water . It's nice. Though, again, if you're with relatives, you might want to swim naked with the male people of the family and let the women have their own turn. I have never seen a pool that allows you to swim naked though.

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If you go to church and you see a pretty girl, do you get an erection?


YES

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Ted, I knew YOU would, but what about Diss? Then again he's the Las Vegas pimp so I'm not sure maybe he'd be ready too.

Diss, this is the major difference. In sauna, if I WANT to have an erection, then *bam* it's there. I just start thinking sexually about the girl across me, hey no problem. But I rather not. Unless that girl is my gf or wife or something. Because if you get an erection in sauna that is non-sexual, well .. then it just became sexual, and that's what it wasn't about. Are you some kind of sex machine that you can't turn it off for at least few minutes?

Controlling != desensitizing.

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Diss, this is the major difference. In sauna, if I WANT to have an erection, then *bam* it's there. I just start thinking sexually about the girl across me, hey no problem. But I rather not. Unless that girl is my gf or wife or something. Because if you get an erection in sauna that is non-sexual, well .. then it just became sexual, and that's what it wasn't about. Are you some kind of sex machine that you can't turn it off for at least few minutes?

An erection is typically somthing that is difficult to control. An erection can be purely mechanical, and is a reaction of your body just like a belly-gurgle.

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Ted, I knew YOU would, but what about Diss? Then again he's the Las Vegas pimp so I'm not sure maybe he'd be ready too.

Diss, this is the major difference. In sauna, if I WANT to have an erection, then *bam* it's there. I just start thinking sexually about the girl across me, hey no problem. But I rather not. Unless that girl is my gf or wife or something. Because if you get an erection in sauna that is non-sexual, well .. then it just became sexual, and that's what it wasn't about. Are you some kind of sex machine that you can't turn it off for at least few minutes?

Controlling != desensitizing.


I have never gotten an erection in church, but I haven't been to church in over a decade. Most of the people were old and ugly.

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An erection is typically somthing that is difficult to control. An erection can be purely mechanical, and is a reaction of your body just like a belly-gurgle.


I can't control it. sometimes I get it when fully clothed just talking to a woman. more of a semi, not full erect. But it can be difficult to bring down.

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Spiffor, so you know it's about sensations and all that. Now, hopefully in the future you will have the chance to become real badass sauna dude, and try out few things. One, that other people thing we're totally weird doing is rolling naked in the snow. I know it sounds weird but I'm sure you've heard of it. The mental image might be too much, and you need a little humour not to laugh when you do it.. I admit, when we do it, I find it hard not to laugh because it's kind of.. well funny!

And why do we do it? Because it feels fun. You know it's not cold at all. People would think, hey you're coming straight out of sauna and going to freezing weather and rolling naked in snow, isn't that crazy? No it's not.. the trick is that you come straiught from sauna, steam still rising from your body and then dive. Real men always dive without checking out where they're diving. You can get a hardcore status if you happen to land on cut tree stomach first.

But maybe better just be relatively sure what's under the snow. But don't go testing it too much, it has to be powder when you dive. Some people don't dive, but young people should alwyas dive. Just be careful not to land on your nuts. And YEAH, if the snow is hard, DON'T ROLL! You'll only scrach yourself and it hurts like hell to scrach yourself with snow, it's like sand paper, only worse. Because.. it's icey. It cuts you.

So you roll there, this might be a spoiler but it doesn't feel cold, so don't worry if someone tries to dare you. Just go for it without hesitation, they think you must be crazy. Don't cool off and then dive. Then it IS cold. Then with good luck you have a heart attack. Unlikely, but still it's so cold it might physically mostly just hurt. Like stabbing all over your body. So you come straight off of sauna and dive like a superman and roll like a dog. Don't start randomizing before the snow, just never ending movement from sauna to snow. Roll like for good 30 seconds and then get up, teh point is not to stay rolling too long because well, then it feels cold and that's NOT the idea.

It's another sensation you can't describe, but it's another goodie . Then you go BACK to sauna, because .. you have snow on you, you'll freeze yourself to death soon. SO go back in, and it's great because the sauna doesn't feel that hot at all, you feel like normal body temperature, it's fun and weird, and when the snow starts melting off of your body in sauna, it tingles nicely, kind of like little rushes going through your body. It's definitely worth trying out, and once you try, you'll do it everytime.

Or you can go into .. when you have hole in the ice in lake? You can go into that too. But don't stay there too long, like wait until it starts to feel cold, don't wait for it, and then don't dive there, preferrably don't put your head under the water because if you freeze your head it hurts like hell, it's pain and it's not necessarily very healthy. But try these, if you get the chance and keep it in theback of your head when you're in a place with snow. And remember, there needs to be snow, untouched snow. Needless to say you can't roll in a snow if there's not enough snow, and it has to be soft, not icey hard. Untouched snow is softer you see. You dive in there like you'd dive to heaven. If someone has messed in it, it's not so soft because it's been decompressed. Plus with untouchjed snow, it's like raping nature

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Ted, I knew YOU would, but what about Diss? Then again he's the Las Vegas pimp so I'm not sure maybe he'd be ready too.

Diss, this is the major difference. In sauna, if I WANT to have an erection, then *bam* it's there. I just start thinking sexually about the girl across me, hey no problem. But I rather not. Unless that girl is my gf or wife or something. Because if you get an erection in sauna that is non-sexual, well .. then it just became sexual, and that's what it wasn't about. Are you some kind of sex machine that you can't turn it off for at least few minutes?


Controlling != desensitizing.


Yeah, I can turn if off when I need to.

My friends have always trusted me to look after their women when they aren't around because they know I'm not going to hit on them. It's like a badge of honor I wear.

On the other hand, I think this excessive Eurocom nakedness is a bad thing. Mystery has always been the sexiest thing, when your mind is at work it will come up with something 10 times sexier than someone painting you picture. That's why things like lingerie and nylons works so well, they show a glimpse of what there is but they don't reveal the whole picture.

It's also why hot chicks look hotter when they are dressed more conservatively. Like at church. You're like, "I wonder what's going on under there," and so your mind fills in all the blanks.

I guess the point is that I hope you Eurocoms don't spend too much time around your partners naked, it kinda ruins the whole fun of things.

It's like when there is a marriage that has lost it's fire, one thing I have seen recommended by counselors is to get separate bathrooms if possible.

Yeah, it's cool that you can take a dump in front of your wife, but what does that do for romance in the long run???

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"Mystery has always been the sexiest thing, when your mind is at work it will come up with something 10 times sexier than someone painting you picture."

Well, I haven't seen every chick naked now have I?
Besides, you don't go to sauna with a girl if it's your first date. I mean if she wants to, GREAT! That means sexy time. No other ways about it. But you know what I mean. I mean, it's extremely rare that you're in a sauna with a person you feel sexually attracted to before you go in. Meaning that there might be a sexy girl inside that you didn't know. This meaning, that yes, every girl is a mystery to me, until I see them naked, and the chances are 98% I won't see them in sauna before I get with them.

So I agree, part of sexy is mystery. Like I said, I prefer getting with girls that are not 100% naked.

But it's not all there is to it.

"I guess the point is that I hope you Eurocoms don't spend too much time around your partners naked, it kinda ruins the whole fun of things.

It's like when there is a marriage that has lost it's fire, one thing I have seen recommended by counselors is to get separate bathrooms if possible."

Nah.. you murricans just do the missionary position in dark . Then you need to boost it up.. get little more sexy in it. Hey, I've done it in playground at very early morning. No kids was there. And also in train station. No not in bathroom, IN trainstation. And few other places I had this gf for few weeks some years ago that was into public places. It was pretty exciting. I mean VERY exciting. So the point was, you don't need to wait until you've been together for 20 years and get bored witht he regular sex. You can start right away, build up, do different things.. sexy lingerie is good, but that's like small play man.. at least in Europe I guess.. that's kid's game . I mean, in here if girl says she wants JUST normal sex, the normal stuff, it means .. the normal intercourse plus oral sex both ways, and sometimes possible number 2. Lingeries, maybe little butt slapping action, that's often considered as 'Just the normal, nothing kinky'. Kinky is when you start crapping on someones chest.

Little role playing.. I mean are you going to live 4000 years? You don't get bored man, you just need to expermient with these and some of these are never ending sources, like role playing and all that. You are just sexually oppressed .

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Fakeboris is actually fake french

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"Like at church. You're like, "I wonder what's going on under there," and so your mind fills in all the blanks."

We don't go naked into churches you know

"It's like when there is a marriage that has lost it's fire, one thing I have seen recommended by counselors is to get separate bathrooms if possible."

what a crappy councelor. How about 'try this!' *ENTER 1000 TOYS!*.

"Yeah, it's cool that you can take a dump in front of your wife, but what does that do for romance in the long run???"

Ohh who was tal king about that? That's just nasty.

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I mean, in here if girl says she wants JUST normal sex, the normal stuff, it means .. the normal intercourse plus oral sex both ways, and sometimes possible number 2. Lingeries, maybe little butt slapping action, that's often considered as 'Just the normal, nothing kinky'. Kinky is when you start crapping on someones chest.



These things are nothing special to Europe. We do them in America too.

Crapping on someones chest.

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On the other hand, that "normal" sex is viewed by Pekka's view as "boring," that just kind reinforces what I said, that you feel like you have to do all the extra stuff to spice it up.

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Fakeboris is actually fake french


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Yes you do, but it's more normal in here, we invented number 2 sex.

Your chances to see naked women in real life in saunas doesn't make your ability to have erection any worse. Nor does it make women any less mysterious. That's the fundamental error, the sexual thinking.

And don't say that if you see a girl you have the hots for in sauna, that 'UUUUUUU DAMN IT! now I'm not so excited'. Now you can have even better thoughts later on . With your suggestion, Taliban sex is THE ****, because they see their women's eyes and stuff. At home, I still bet there's not much topless action going on with the cooking.

What about Japanese? They're pretty conservative on the dressing and nudity. But what about the sex stuff in there? You can buy panties from vending machines for C's sake, and no not for your gf, for you to sniff. So what does that tell you? That makes them sex maniacs? No it just makes them weird.

You'd be in the middle, semi oppresives. And we'd be of course, the model example of how it should be in that aspect . Euro Sex It's daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn HOT!

And no I didn't say normal interourse is boring. It's not. How you like them apples!

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I don't think I could get an erection in a sauna, I'm such a loser.

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Yeah, but Diss and Ted are making it sound like you guys dont' want to be 'desensitized' with your circumcized penises, and like your women to have some clothes on so the sex won't dry up and sleep in different bedrooms.

Whoopdidoo.

While we haven't complained about dried up sex, continue to have interesting sex, prefer our women to have easy-access-see-you-naked.

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Depends on the girl.

I can't see myself with some of my friends, avoiding the same problem as Diss.

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Wow, I didn't know you had 90-100C and dry air in the summer in Las Vegas. I know understand why you love air conditioning so much


It's a desert.

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Ha! Dirty quebecer

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Yeah, but Diss and Ted are making it sound like you guys dont' want to be 'desensitized' with your circumcized penises, and like your women to have some clothes on so the sex won't dry up and sleep in different bedrooms.

Whoopdidoo.

While we haven't complained about dried up sex, continue to have interesting sex, prefer our women to have easy-access-see-you-naked.


If you say so.

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